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Besides color, any difference in these bindings???

post #1 of 19
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=013

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=019

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA:IT&ih=019

Does anyone KNOW the answer to this question?

As far as I can tell, there is no difference except the color -- I see that one PX 12 is called Titanium, but ... sounds like marketing hype to me, maybe not?

Thanks in advance, guys.
post #2 of 19
Well, the titanium oe appears to not have a lifter. That's the one I'd get since youare putting it on a plated ski.
post #3 of 19
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Well, the titanium oe appears to not have a lifter. That's the one I'd get since youare putting it on a plated ski.
Erm ... I'm really uninformed ... what's a "lifter?"
post #4 of 19
It's a piece of plastic that lifts the bining higher off the ski. Not much. Maybe 12mm. Your ski is already plated, so you don't need this.
post #5 of 19
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It's a piece of plastic that lifts the bining higher off the ski. Not much. Maybe 12mm. Your ski is already plated, so you don't need this.
hey, thanks, epic; I just bought the titaniums a few seconds ago based on your recommendation. The red is pretty cool. Anyway, total cost was $145 shipped.
post #6 of 19
Trotski - I am not being rude or anything, but how can you have 4000+ posts and not know what a lifter is?
post #7 of 19
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Trotski - I am not being rude or anything, but how can you have 4000+ posts and not know what a lifter is?
well, three answers:

1) I sort of resent geer geekiness, and I deliberately cultivate gear ignorance. Gear freaks give me the creeps, to be quite honest. I'm like, who cares what a lifter is? I've found plenty to talk about without being lifted an extra 10mm or whatever.
2) I'm tall -- I don't need a lift.
3) I'm absolutely dedicated to being full of bulls**t when it comes to skiing expertise. It is my relentless goal, my passion, my art.


BTW, since you've dropped in, do you have an answer to the thread's question?
post #8 of 19
Fair enough.

The Titanuim ones you got are lighter and stronger than the standard version. Excellent choice. I am not sure what skis you will be putting them on but if epic says they already have a plate then the lift/no lift will only have a minimal difference.
post #9 of 19
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Fair enough.

The Titanuim ones you got are lighter and stronger than the standard version. Excellent choice. I am not sure what skis you will be putting them on but if epic says they already have a plate then the lift/no lift will only have a minimal difference.
They're going on these.
post #10 of 19
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Originally Posted by Trotski View Post
well, three answers:

1) I sort of resent geer geekiness, and I deliberately cultivate gear ignorance. Gear freaks give me the creeps, to be quite honest. I'm like, who cares what a lifter is? I've found plenty to talk about without being lifted an extra 10mm or whatever.
2) I'm tall -- I don't need a lift.
3) I'm absolutely dedicated to being full of bulls**t when it comes to skiing expertise. It is my relentless goal, my passion, my art.


BTW, since you've dropped in, do you have an answer to the thread's question?
Whether you are a gear geek or not, you probably could have figured that one out....

This one is labeled "lifter"



This one is not:



Using your non-skiing knowledge of the word "lift" and a little common sense , you might say to yourself...."Let's see... to 'lift' means to raise from a lower to a higher position." "Hmmm, does one of these bindings look "lifted" at all compared to the other?" "They must be talking about that small piece of plastic under one of those bindings that "lifts the binding up off the ski!"

Of course, using logic to figure this out doesn't contribute at all your ridiculous post count.

Next question?
post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by Trotski View Post

I sort of resent geer geekiness, and I deliberately cultivate gear ignorance. Gear freaks give me the creeps, to be quite honest. I'm like, who cares what a lifter is? I've found plenty to talk about without being lifted an extra 10mm or whatever.

UP Racer, I believe it was you who once advised me to "just let it go, man.", I'm returning the favor:

Just Let It Go.
post #12 of 19
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
Using your non-skiing knowledge of the word "lift" and a little common sense , you might say to yourself...."Let's see... to 'lift' means to raise from a lower to a higher position." "Hmmm, does one of these bindings look "lifted" at all compared to the other?" "They must be talking about that small piece of plastic under one of those bindings that "lifts the binding up off the ski!"

Of course, using logic to figure this out doesn't contribute at all your ridiculous post count.

Next question?
Wow. I guess that felt good for you?
post #13 of 19
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UP Racer, I believe it was you who once advised me to "just let it go, man.", I'm returning the favor:

Just Let It Go.
I appreciate it. Sometimes I forget. Thanks.
post #14 of 19
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UP Racer, I believe it was you who once advised me to "just let it go, man.", I'm returning the favor:

Just Let It Go.
Quote:
Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
I appreciate it. Sometimes I forget. Thanks.
Hug it out, man. Hug it out.
post #15 of 19
I've got nothin' but love for any of you guys... nothin' but love.
post #16 of 19
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I've got nothin' but love for any of you guys... nothin' but love.
LOL. OK, so ... getting back to the topic at hand, BESIDE THE FRICKING LIFTER, OK?

one person says the titanium makes a difference, but I'm not convinced because I guess I'm not sure it really changes anything, including the weight. I just don't know the facts about these. The bindings are already bought at this point, but I'm still interested in any insights.
post #17 of 19
The Ti version uses more metal in the heel, the non-Ti version uses a 'composite' heel.
post #18 of 19
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The Ti version uses more metal in the heel, the non-Ti version uses a 'composite' heel.
Sounds like any difference in weight would be negligible.
post #19 of 19
Yes, the weight is negligable...and the non-Ti version is the lighter binding...strange but true.
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