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post #151 of 164

I don't have a fast pass... and when I see people who do it doesn't really bug me.  They made it so much more expensive this year ($200) I doubt there will be that many takers.
 

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It's precisely the Northstar approach that I find so wrong. Once on the hill, everyone should be equal, IMO. buying special treatment just bothers me on the mountain.  Maybe if they wore that special pass on their coat pocket, I could be absolutely certain not to help dig them out when they auger in on their first run and I come up behind. (I'm very helpful on the hill.) 

 

I don't know about the great advantage of a business model that pisses so many other customers off. The antagonism spreads from the center of a bad action, leading to the "screw them" attitude.



 



 

post #152 of 164
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CG, that is serious protocol that I would like to spread via internet. If someone in your group lags, that's a problem, but it's your problem, not mine. wait for him at the very, very back of the line. that has been the way it is since I remember big crowds in the 60's and 70's, and it's still the considerate thing to do. that goes for husbands and wives as well, brothers and sisters, mom and kids, friends of friends. though little kids are the exception in my book, too sweet.

post #153 of 164

I don't have an issue with people who lost their group jumping 1-2 spots ahead in the line to catch up. More than that is a no-no. Our unofficial rule is if you lose the group, get in the singles line and you'll probably meet up with us near the front anyway (or we choose the group line that's next to the singles line and that way if you catch up, you can just duck under and join us).

 

I've definitely been guilty of splitting a small group (2, maybe 3) up and taking the singles line if it looks noticeably shorter - although I agree that it is generally a bogus thing to do.

 

I also hate it right after ski-school line-up when the ski school line is suddenly inundated with a whole bunch of groups of students/instructors. It happens more on beginner/intermediate lifts than others, but can happen anywhere. I feel guilty when I'm the instructor in this situation, and annoyed when I'm the customer. Last year we had some lift line attendants who would screw up this situation royally. They fell into two categories. There were the ones who would make ski-school groups alternate just like every other queue - causing the group to be really split up by the time it got to the top and therefore a ton of gaper students clogging up the area at the top. Then there were a couple who would let every single ski school group go until there were no more - causing the rest of the line to backup incredibly and pissing off everyone in line. We finally got their supervisor to reiterate some common-sense guidelines. And one of the ski school supervisors was smart enough to send off the big groups with a little spacing between them so it wasn't a mass-rush at the beginner lifts. It is only a problem on holidays, but that's when the lines are longest too - compounding the issue. Thankfully we don't have long lines at Alpine Meadows - although maybe we will this season if all you Squallywoodheads come over the hill wink.gif

post #154 of 164

What's the big deal about riding up w/ your friends,make new ones.

Does it really matter if someone gets in front of you, by the end of the day you shouldn't care.They obviously do not have the miles in.

Our group waits outside the lift lines for each other or just keep skiing they will catch up.

:-Drink,Eat, take a break the lines will subside.

The faster you go the slower it gets.

Now go out there and ski!

 

 

post #155 of 164

Ski School should alternate with the other people waiting. Every other chair.

post #156 of 164

That's what we do.  I usually go every third chair and try to be low key about it.  A ski school group that gets "split" can re-group at the top just like everyone else.  I always ask before cutting in and defer if someone in the public line has any sort of "problem" with it.  I also always go on the last chair that my group takes, so I can manage the line merge.  I also make sure that all the seats on our chairs are full by pulling from the singles line to fill them.
 

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Ski School should alternate with the other people waiting. Every other chair.



 

post #157 of 164

I think the only time here there are issues is during Christmas week and maybe Canada's Family week or whatever it is that coincides with Presidents' Day.  Otherwise, there are no lines to even need a linecutting policy.  Yeah, there's a separate gate, but...I think they might stagger them if needed during those times?  Can't say I've ever noticed.  If there is a line I start skiing another part of the mountain for a while.  

 

Ah yes....Montana...

post #158 of 164
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post

I think the only time here there are issues is during Christmas week and maybe Canada's Family week or whatever it is that coincides with Presidents' Day.  Otherwise, there are no lines to even need a linecutting policy.  Yeah, there's a separate gate, but...I think they might stagger them if needed during those times?  Can't say I've ever noticed.  If there is a line I start skiing another part of the mountain for a while.  

 

Ah yes....Montana...


You mean to say that the lift lines in Montana aren't like the big Tahoe and Colorado resorts? Sweet! Can't wait to see for myself. This will be my first season skiing MT! (inbounds that is)

post #159 of 164

Can't speak to Red Lodge, Austin, have only been there during the non-holidays for races.  No lines then.  I would expect that since it's not a huge destination area, that you won't find much difference during the holidays either.  

post #160 of 164

Here's a relevant article my wife wrote on Line Cutting.

 

The Line Game, Moonshine Ink, March 12, 2009

post #161 of 164

you have hour long liftlines?

 

 

 

 

 

oops- I read the first page. Didn't realize we had a six page rantfest here...

post #162 of 164
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Originally Posted by soulskier View Post

Here's a relevant article my wife wrote on Line Cutting.

 

The Line Game, Moonshine Ink, March 12, 2009


 

Line Gaper.roflmao.gif

post #163 of 164

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Originally Posted by soulskier View Post

Here's a relevant article my wife wrote on Line Cutting.

 

The Line Game, Moonshine Ink, March 12, 2009


 

 

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Europeans were highly trained. Even a gaper with a fluorescent one-piece, traditional skis and rear-entry boots would know the needed pole flick to disengage an opponent’s shaft from between the legs. Skis were placed in the exact location needed for blocking all snake routes. Elbows were composed in a stronghold position, stopping any upper-body weasel move.

 


That article is so true. I skied a little when I was younger and then had about a 15 year break. I picked it back up the year I was in Germany. In the lines over there it was like being in a really crowded bar. No space, everybody trying to shove their way forward... I didn't remember lift lines being like that, but I couldn't imagine the Germans, with their "alles in Ordnung" ways would be like this so I figured it had become a general ski thing. Once I got back to the states, lines were much more organized (most of the time and most places).  

 

post #164 of 164

Another reason why BC skiing is great! Someone "cutting" while in the backcountry is merely breaking trail for you!

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