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post #1 of 13
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Time to expand my quiver past the single pair of skis I own!

Im looking for something for soft groomers, spring slush, and maybe some off-piste. By soft groomers, I mean typical tahoe conditions, ie... a trail that started out as packed powder, but has been sliced and diced by 100 skiers per minute for several hours.

Location: northern california, and pnw.
Stats: Upper intermediate, 210 LBS, 6 foot. 38 y.o.
Current ski: rossi z9 (124/74/105) which I love on hard pack, but sinks to the bottom on the soft groomers and slush. Wouldnt even want to think what it would do in powder, even though Ive never skied powder :
I am thinking I need something at least in the mid 80s width to float my weight.

Taste: I like a damp ski, as I enjoy feeling the whole length of the ski glued to the snow. I also like a ski that I can feel bend if I give it some forward pressure. Not a fan of stiff skis, bouncy skis, or skis than wont let me skid. Style: Somewhere between old school and new. Can carve if I concentrate on it, but most turns are scarved.

No plans to do park/pipe/jib, but I wouldnt not be opposed to a twin tip, simply to shoot out rooster tails
post #2 of 13
Check out the Head Monster iM82. Definitely qualifies as a damp ski. It'll bust through whatever slush and crud you give it. It's a race-derived construction, so it's meant for modern carving techniques, but there's really nothing that would prevent you from using an old school technique with it. Other option is the 88, which is similar but a bit wider. I'd recommend that if you were doing more off-piste stuff, but for a general crud buster and soft groomer stuff, the narrower width is probably preferable.
post #3 of 13
Rossi B83 / B3 has everything you say you are looking for, they should be near the top of the demo list.

Scott usa makes some interesting skis, the Punisher or the Mission would be worth trying. They are very damp smooth skiss that aren't too stiff and they are both upper 80's for waist width. Scotts dual radius sidecut might really compliment your "mix of old school and carving" technique, I like the feel of their skis.
post #4 of 13
What Whiteroom said, try it longish.
post #5 of 13
K2 Outlaw

SJ
post #6 of 13
I'm a total scarver!

Skis I have liked/demoed/owned:

Volkl Mantra (go at least 184cm) - owned the 177 and loved, but skis short
Rossi B3 - demoed numerous times, totally enjoyed it
Volkl Karma (go at least 185cm) - owned the 177, loved it, but skis short
AK King Salmon (only comes in a 180, but it skis long) - replaced my Mantras with this one. Love it
Blizzard Titan 9 (at least the 181) - replaced my Karmas with this one. Love it
Atomic M:EX - demoed numerous times in a 175 and enjoyed it

Lotta folks who are half OG/half NS seem to enjoy the PM Gear Bro (99mm). They do random demos if you can hook up with somebody who rides 'em.
post #7 of 13
Demo the Head Xenon Xi 7.0, 170 cm for your size. I have a pair ordered. Two testers for Head got some last January, and they love them for everything except hard pack and frozen crud, including Colorado powder to knee deep and bumps. The very wide tip & tail and good flex pattern will give you the float you want. They told me that a very good 6', 220# skier demo'ed their 170s and didn't want to give them back. One of the testers is Level III and a winning masters racer, and she told me that the Xenons made bumps, her least favorite skiing, fun for her.

I ski West Coast powder (which drips water if you try to make a tightly squeezed snowball), and expect these to work great. I'm 6', 200#, good all-mountain, all-conditions skier, and I'll be on the 170s. For the hard pack days...or weeks...I'll be on my excellent Head SuperShapes, but the reports I've gotten on the Xenons were that they're even more fun. The test-production Xenon 9.0 had the tail too stiff for these testers, but the main production run might correct that...I haven't heard.

I always laugh at the snow reports from the Sierra resorts..."powder and packed powder" every day of the season. Why bother to read it? What's packed powder?...something akin to evaporated rain? If it's packed, it ain't powder. Ski-packed snow, OK. Crud, OK. Packed powder...fuggedaboudit.
post #8 of 13
Fsicher Cold Heat, AMC 79, AMC 76, Nordica Hot Rod Top Fuel, and the Elan that is about 82 mm wide, but I forgot its name.
post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy View Post
I always laugh at the snow reports from the Sierra resorts..."powder and packed powder" every day of the season. Why bother to read it? What's packed powder?...something akin to evaporated rain? If it's packed, it ain't powder. Ski-packed snow, OK. Crud, OK. Packed powder...fuggedaboudit.
We like to refer to Pennsylvania packed powder, the kind of snow that you can see your reflection in.
post #10 of 13
Gobucks:

honestly, don't be shy about scoping out something in the 94-100mm waist.

Mantra
King Salmon
Rossi B94
Bro
if you're in PNW, how about the Lib Tech NAS Mt. Baker (93mm)?
Line also has a few models in the 90-100 range that seem to get good reviews, too.

you'll be surprised to find that a lot of the 94 - 100 will handle crud, ice, bumps, and also give you great pleasure in the soft serve.
post #11 of 13

Rossi B3

I use Fischer RX8s at 170 on hardpack etc - sort of similar to your current Rossi's.

When I go west or when here in Western NY the snow is soft and/or deep I am on Rossi B3's at 176 which IMHO ski exactly like the description of what you are looking for.

BTW - 6'0" at 175 lbs.
post #12 of 13
I ski a lot at Tahoe. For the kind of conditions you describe, I love my Dynastar Legend 8000s. They are extremely stable busting through crud. I had demo'd the RX8s before I bought the Legends and I would agree with the prior poster. The RX8s are nice on groomers and quicker to turn but just aren't as stable in crud as the Legends.
post #13 of 13
I second what FOG said - I would try the Fischer Cold Heat and the AMC 76. I skied the AMC 76 last year, I would guess 85% of the time, and found them to be a great ski - groomer, powder, crud and they handled well. I ski them in a 170 and find that they are plenty stable.
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