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Bindings for Gotamas

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
Going to buy some Volkl Gotamas tonight at a pro nite, 183 not for alpine touring.

What bindings are best? I know there are a few to stay away from if my memory serves me right reading some back posts. If you can please tell me which ones to avoid also. Thanks Pete

Me. Use DIN of 8, 190, 5'11, Advanced skier
post #2 of 26
Marker Jester 16. It's got a shorter mounting footprint so you'll get a smaller flat spot and it's available with wider brakes to fit the Gotamas.
post #3 of 26
I just posted this same question a couple weeks ago:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...ighlight=goats

I haven't fully decided on which bindings yet

You stats are quite close to mine.

I like the Tyrolia Mojo 15 recommendation but the 5-15 DIN setting my be too high so I am leaning toward the Look PX12 with no lifter.

I need to find a 105 brake as the 100's won't fit without bending.
post #4 of 26
Bending 5mm isn't a problem, bending brakes is EASY.
post #5 of 26
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Bending 5mm isn't a problem, bending brakes is EASY.
It better be.....I am friggin ANAL
Can I take the lifters off the lifter bindings?
Don't want to jack the thread.
post #6 of 26
Thread Starter 

Bindings

Deemo, thanks looked up your question and that narrowed it down a little for me. Taking off now for town - 1 hour to Couer d Alene. Snowing up top as we speak. Yea
post #7 of 26
Hockey's suggestion of Marker Jester is the riight idea.
As an alternate a 4frnt Deadbolt 614 would suit the Got as well.
post #8 of 26
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Hockey's suggestion of Marker Jester is the riight idea.
As an alternate a 4frnt Deadbolt 614 would suit the Got as well.
I am having a tough time reconciling the recommendation of the Jester as well.
A DIN range of 6-16 with both of us fitting into a 7-8 DIN range.
post #9 of 26
i still toss out the Mojo 15.

I ride a DIN of about 9, 9.5ish depending on my weight.
post #10 of 26
I'd probably go with a Jester or a Salomon STH 12. Maybe even a Z12 (unless you are just way hard charging, Z12s would likely be fine). No need even to bend brakes with them - just get the right size brake when you buy the binding.

I'm going to be playing with Dukes and Jesters this season. The specs and initial reviews look great - but they do not exactly have a multi-year track record yet. So, ya pays yer money and...

FWIW, I have about 10 days on 08 Gotamas with Z12s. About +/- 215 pounds. Usually run DIN at 9 or thereabouts. Very light feeling combo for what it'll do. Very well behaved so far.

The real bottom line is use anything that suits you...
post #11 of 26
My first choice for what you want would be the Jesters.

The Z12 would be right up there.
post #12 of 26
Pete,

With a DIN of 8 you have all sorts of choices. Go with what you like. Jesters are great if you are going to ride the park, but they are quite expensive. Get a DIN 12 max and find some wide brakes. Watch SAC and I'm sure some PX12 Looks will show up eventually. Heck, they are like $93 at BC.com, so spend a few more bucks for wide brakes and you are golden.

Once you figure what bindings to mount your real question surfaces...Where to mount them? FR Line? FS Line? or Somewhere in between??
post #13 of 26
I'd go with the Looks or a pair of Salomon 12-din bindings. The Gots are a little on the heavy side (compared to my other skis at least- Prophet 100s, 179 Bros) so a lighter binding would be nice.
post #14 of 26

Marker Frees

:How come no one has brought these up for discussion::

http://www.rei.com/product/759069?cm...l_item*element

I like this comment as I am looking to my Goats for pow....not park:

"twincam Heel offers optimum performance and easy step-in/step-out convenience, even in deep-snow conditions"

Can order the 110mm brake:
http://www.rei.com/product/720486?cm...l_item*element
post #15 of 26
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Originally Posted by Deemo View Post
:How come no one has brought these up for discussion::
That's a whole 'nother thread.

FWIW that's pretty much what's on my Goats.
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by Deemo View Post
:How come no one has brought these up for discussion::

http://www.rei.com/product/759069?cm...l_item*element

I like this comment as I am looking to my Goats for pow....not park:

"twincam Heel offers optimum performance and easy step-in/step-out convenience, even in deep-snow conditions"

Can order the 110mm brake:
http://www.rei.com/product/720486?cm...l_item*element
easy biometric toes prereleases, especailly when decambered in powder and going fast.

Biometric technology continuously adjusts to changing forces to reduce potentially harmful pressures working on a skier's knees

During a backward-twisting fall, Biometric immediately reduces the upward release force by 25 - 50%, depending on the release force setting

it basically ejected me multiple times when the ski would hit a bump

I run Px12tis on mine no issues, they stay on.
post #17 of 26
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Once you figure what bindings to mount your real question surfaces...Where to mount them? FR Line? FS Line? or Somewhere in between??
Seconded. I'm going with z12's in between FR & FS and hope it's the right choice, no park/jibbing. Thoughts?
post #18 of 26
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easy biometric toes prereleases, especailly when decambered in powder and going fast.

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Yeah Did a search and came up with some nasty comments to that effect.
post #19 of 26
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Originally Posted by Bandit Man View Post
Pete,

With a DIN of 8 you have all sorts of choices. Go with what you like. Jesters are great if you are going to ride the park, but they are quite expensive. Get a DIN 12 max and find some wide brakes. Watch SAC and I'm sure some PX12 Looks will show up eventually. Heck, they are like $93 at BC.com, so spend a few more bucks for wide brakes and you are golden.

Once you figure what bindings to mount your real question surfaces...Where to mount them? FR Line? FS Line? or Somewhere in between??
I mounted mine on the FR line, I skis these ski all ove the mountain including park, but I really prefer lots of tips on my skis. If your not doing any park this is the way to go, unless you landing fakie off big kickers in the backcounrty no reason to be any further forward. I know spindrift has his 183 mounted in the same spot too.
post #20 of 26
I would recomend the Z12

Light solid binding found for a good price. They will come with barkes that fit the ski.
post #21 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Bandit Man View Post
Pete,

With a DIN of 8 you have all sorts of choices.

Once you figure what bindings to mount your real question surfaces...Where to mount them? FR Line? FS Line? or Somewhere in between??

Bandit Man, where do you have yours mounted and why, what do you recommend. No park, no big cliff hucking (1991 broken back) just off piste, powder, no big wide open Snowbird type stuff but more trees, short drops, narrower powder stashes. Anyone, give me some input. I am an exceptionally good listener. Thanks Pete
post #22 of 26
My .02. -- for powder, put them on the FR line like Bushwacker said... They are very maneuverable in soft snow that way. If you mount them there you'll probably do a double take when you get 'em done though. The ski is designed with a very elongated tip. This is intentional.

Mounting on the FR line looks way back relative to the total length of the ski- but it really is not that far back when you look at the "effective" length of the ski based on where the sidecut is. The rest of that tip engages and plays well in softer deeper snow while keeping you from going over the bars. That seems to be its mission in life.

I use mine as all around skis (read: a fair bit of groomer time) and if I were mounting them again, I *might* go a tiny bit forward for better hookup on hard snow. But for powder, I'll totally give two thumbs up to the FR mark.
post #23 of 26
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My .02. -- for powder, put them on the FR line like Bushwacker said... They are very maneuverable in soft snow that way. If you mount them there you'll probably do a double take when you get 'em done though. The ski is designed with a very elongated tip. This is intentional.

Mounting on the FR line looks way back relative to the total length of the ski- but it really is not that far back when you look at the "effective" length of the ski based on where the sidecut is. The rest of that tip engages and plays well in softer deeper snow while keeping you from going over the bars. That seems to be its mission in life.

I use mine as all around skis (read: a fair bit of groomer time) and if I were mounting them again, I *might* go a tiny bit forward for better hookup on hard snow. But for powder, I'll totally give two thumbs up to the FR mark.
I have heard 1.5cm forward of the FR mark for more "all Mountain" versatility?
post #24 of 26
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I have heard 1.5cm forward of the FR mark for more "all Mountain" versatility?
I doubt it would tip dive even 1.5 cm forward but realistically at ealst my skis on my feet hook up in all but the iceiest slopes at the freeride mark. If it icey all over the place there would be no reason to use these skis.

the tip just come up no matter what at the FR mark and I never feel off balanced.
post #25 of 26
To you guys that are talking mounting points, which year goats are you on? Any noticable differences from the 06 to the newer design as far as mounting? I was on the 06s last year mounted on the 'I 'on the sidewall since the topsheet marks were not too excact. I did notice ALOT of ski forward of the bindings and they were somewhat strange on hard groomers. I am soon to mount up a set of 08s and was thinking of moving the mount a little forward since these are my everyday ski. I would like better groomer performace out of these, thats why I got the newer model in the first place, but don't want to loose pow performance. I'm thinking that the extra sidecut and stiffness will make em ski better then my old ones(on groomers) even if I mount at the freeride mark vs a little forward. Thoughts?

Edit: yes I know that goats are not ment for groomers, but I feel that they carve a turn pretty damn well for their size and these are my only skis this year.
post #26 of 26
Go with the Mojo 15!
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