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"Crash Pads" gaper or smart?

post #1 of 53
10/16/07 at 1:25pm
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Ok, I will let my "friends" decide, since I am commited to ski more adventurous off-piste terrain and to push my limits this season, I bought a pair of "crash pad" pants to help protect and ease some of the expected bumps and bruises. Am I being a gaper/wuss or smart? Either way I'm keeping them as I can't see the down side to hip, but and knee protection..... Phil has already laughed, I believe he compared them to "depends"

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post #2 of 53
10/16/07 at 1:36pm
Having broken my tailbone learning (or not) to snowboard, I'm all in favor of reasonable protection.
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post #3 of 53
10/16/07 at 1:47pm
Well, I can't knock it too much (accept for the butt pad) because I regularly ski in a padded GS suit that has similar pads to everything on those... but they are designed for running into gates, not falling. Do you really fall that much? It seems excessive for just falling off-piste since that is usually pretty soft anyway... Ice can hurt though. No one will be seeing them anyway unless you're going to model them in the lodge... so I don't think it matters that much.
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GREG
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post #4 of 53
10/16/07 at 2:16pm
Gaper... 'coz you're supposed to have talked to Tyrone about Aegix and other more stylish accoutrements.
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post #5 of 53
10/16/07 at 2:19pm
You wont get me calling you a gaper for wearing protection.
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post #6 of 53
10/16/07 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by cantunamunch View Post
Gaper... 'coz you're supposed to have talked to Tyrone about Aegix and other more stylish accoutrements.

haha...WINNER!!!



(FWIW -- I wear pads/armor for mostly off-piste skiing too. It's not always softer out there....plus many more rocks lurking underneath than on a groomer)
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post #7 of 53
10/16/07 at 2:30pm
Us ice coasters will do well with added protection IMHO (many a black and blue season...and that is exclusively from inbounds!)
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post #8 of 53
10/16/07 at 3:41pm
I vote gaper. Just 'cuz. Bruises are badges.
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post #9 of 53
10/16/07 at 3:49pm
Geez, doesn't anyone know the difference between a gaper and a poser? Crash-pads are 'poser' gear since people wear them to look like (pose like) they are an extreme skier. They would be gaper gear if they made a one-piece outfit, preferably in Miami Vice colors.
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post #10 of 53
10/16/07 at 3:59pm
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces View Post
(FWIW -- I wear pads/armor for mostly off-piste skiing too. It's not always softer out there....plus many more rocks lurking underneath than on a groomer)
Well, you also think you can fly... I guess in your position body armor is better than a body cast later on.
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post #11 of 53
10/16/07 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by Rio View Post
Geez, doesn't anyone know the difference between a gaper and a poser? Crash-pads are 'poser' gear since people wear them to look like (pose like) they are an extreme skier. They would be gaper gear if they made a one-piece outfit, preferably in Miami Vice colors.
But no one sees the pads, therefore gaper takes precedence
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post #12 of 53
10/16/07 at 4:27pm
astute ski bums are always looking for cost effective crash pads...
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post #13 of 53
10/16/07 at 4:29pm
Smart...I have two ski buddies who were on IR for extended periods of time last year from seemingly benign falls. Aegix all the way!
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post #14 of 53
10/16/07 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
astute ski bums are always looking for cost effective crash pads...
Phone book + duct tape.
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post #15 of 53
10/16/07 at 4:37pm
I was thinking more along the lines of a cheap place to crash so as to save cash for lift tix (i.e. a crash pad).



i wish Aegix sold "I *heart* My Spleen" T-Shirts with the Optimus Prime dude on the back. Grey shirt, the phrase on the front and the dude on the back in orange = dopeness galore.
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post #16 of 53
10/16/07 at 6:53pm
A few years ago when I was into crazy freeride mtbing, I wore a Dainese Safety Jacket (back turtle, full arm and chest armour), some Dainese bib-shorts with thigh and illium armour, Roach hardshell knee/leg armour and a motocross helmet. At first I thought riding all armoured up helped me ride with more reckless abandon, but then I realised that although I was going bigger I was also crashing bigger. Armour can only protect you for so long.

The only protection I wear skiing is a (non-full-face) helmet. I can't really see the point of the Crash Padz stuff. If I were to wear some kind of armour for skiing it would be the hard-shell dianese type stuff. The foam stuff might help spread the impact out a little if you're falling on an icy groomer, but ( at least from my mtb experience ) it does nothing for hitting trees and pointy rocks and stuff. I'd think the only thing the Crash Padz would do is keep your ass warm and make it look twice as big.
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post #17 of 53
10/17/07 at 5:56am
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OK, call me a loser then for not knowing about Tyrone's deal with Aegix

Blue Ox is correct, you can't see them under your pants.

Jer, yep, the worse case is I have a warm ass on cold days on the lifts, I have a bony ass now so maybe these will make me look better. Now, that's a poser!
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post #18 of 53
10/17/07 at 6:01am
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
OK, call me a loser then for not knowing about Tyrone's deal with Aegix

Blue Ox is correct, you can't see them under your pants.

Jer, yep, the worse case is I have a warm ass on cold days on the lifts, I have a bony ass now so maybe these will make me look better. Now, that's a poser!
I really want to take my mod hat off,: but I will behave, Finn is my friend.
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post #19 of 53
10/17/07 at 6:40am
Being too warm is actually a significant drawback to those. Since I think the o.p. skis alpine, not tele, and doesn't ride, and is talking off-piste, not doing rails, Crash Padz don't make much sense in terms of likely impacts either. My recommended list of safety gear for someone with that itineray would be (fullface) helmet so that you can feel comfortable skiing faster than you other wise would through tight EC trees and maybe hook the fullface; spine protector so that you can suffer heat exhaustion and also feel good going faster than you otherwise would through EC trees and, as a bonus, feel good about a bony chute out West you normally wouldn't consider; wristguards so you can feel comfortable trying to stop yourself in those trees with stiff outstretched arms; kidney and rib protection as part of the spine protector to make heat exhaustion arrive more quickly; and by the end of the season fungicide to help deal with the side-effects of those funky, moist and sweaty pads. Then a kneebrace for both knees because, while the consensus of leading sports docs is they don't help protect non-injured knees, they are a way of signifying radness and are endorsed by some well-known athletes who get paid to wear them. Then and only then, maybe, impact shorts to complete the package.
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post #20 of 53
10/17/07 at 6:57am
Nice touch would be to wear them on the outside over a pair of jeans...
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post #21 of 53
10/17/07 at 9:18am
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With my giants jacket?
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post #22 of 53
10/17/07 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by CTKook View Post
Being too warm is actually a significant drawback to those. Since I think the o.p. skis alpine, not tele, and doesn't ride, and is talking off-piste, not doing rails, Crash Padz don't make much sense in terms of likely impacts either. My recommended list of safety gear for someone with that itineray would be (fullface) helmet so that you can feel comfortable skiing faster than you other wise would through tight EC trees and maybe hook the fullface; spine protector so that you can suffer heat exhaustion and also feel good going faster than you otherwise would through EC trees and, as a bonus, feel good about a bony chute out West you normally wouldn't consider; wristguards so you can feel comfortable trying to stop yourself in those trees with stiff outstretched arms; kidney and rib protection as part of the spine protector to make heat exhaustion arrive more quickly; and by the end of the season fungicide to help deal with the side-effects of those funky, moist and sweaty pads. Then a kneebrace for both knees because, while the consensus of leading sports docs is they don't help protect non-injured knees, they are a way of signifying radness and are endorsed by some well-known athletes who get paid to wear them. Then and only then, maybe, impact shorts to complete the package.
Sign me up! I am more than halfway there with all the gear you listed, looking to complete the getup this season :

Are you one of those people who do not wear a seat belt when you drive because you might get trapped if the car catches on fire or falls into a river?

Doesnt wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle because the weight, heat, and loss in vision increases your chance of getting into the accident the helmet is supposed to protect you from?
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post #23 of 53
10/17/07 at 9:33am
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
OK, call me a loser then for not knowing about Tyrone's deal with Aegix

Blue Ox is correct, you can't see them under your pants.

Jer, yep, the worse case is I have a warm ass on cold days on the lifts, I have a bony ass now so maybe these will make me look better. Now, that's a poser!
Perhaps these might work?
http://www.freshpair.com/Go-Softwear...=08-33472758-2
Or maybe a more permanent solution?
http://www.buttockimplants.com/
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post #24 of 53
10/17/07 at 9:40am
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Originally Posted by Johnnys Zoo View Post
Perhaps these might work?
http://www.freshpair.com/Go-Softwear...=08-33472758-2
Or maybe a more permanent solution?
http://www.buttockimplants.com/
HOLY SH&%T that's funny! OMG, I am dieing here (said with a NY accent)
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post #25 of 53
10/17/07 at 9:41am
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
OK, call me a loser then for not knowing about Tyrone's deal with Aegix

Blue Ox is correct, you can't see them under your pants.

Jer, yep, the worse case is I have a warm ass on cold days on the lifts, I have a bony ass now so maybe these will make me look better. Now, that's a poser!
I really want to take my mod hat off,: but I will behave, Finn is my friend.
Whats stoppin' you this time?
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post #26 of 53
10/17/07 at 9:53am
Don't forget the Motocross Helmet
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post #27 of 53
10/17/07 at 10:02am
I'm JUST traying to help...

The homeopathic sloution.
http://www.cyberpt.com/cptvid19.htm

And one and two and....
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post #28 of 53
10/17/07 at 10:15am
You guys have it totally backasswards. Like helmets, body armor comes out of motorcycle/car racing, jumped to ski racing, now commonly seen in guys who do 100 foot cliffs. So it never WAS about gapers OR posers. It has built-in cred.

A decade ago helmets were for kids, parents setting a good example, racers, and old whimps. How many of you guys wearing lids fit in those categories right now?
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post #29 of 53
10/17/07 at 10:19am

Sorry to get serious again, but...

Well, I went back and looked at the original catalog link. I gotta agree w/ Jer - they don't look thick enough to do much in any situation where you really need them. Seems like you'd need either a hard shell or much thicker foam.

The thin stuff might help w/ "annoyance-level" bruises I suppose, if you expect to have a lot of those.

When I ski, my helmet and goggles are my only protective gear. When snowboarding (badly) I add 2 inches of foam over my tailbone.

BTW, a real safety measure too many people ignore -- do not ski trees without something over your eyes. To quote your grandma, "It's better than a sharp stick in the eye."
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post #30 of 53
10/17/07 at 10:49am
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yeah, its pretty much to take some of the beating out of bruises and buffer some hits. I am being over cautious, that's a given. I hava very bad track record of injuries. My biz partner always jokes saying she's not sure if I have owned more cars or had more surgeries ( I've had a lot of cars) I had knee surgery last April and some other injuries that are feeling good so far. If I can keep from a nasty deep bruises or just keep the beating down, it's all good to me. They make good thermal pants so the shorts which provide the ass and hip protection is really what I'm after. I may get them and not like them but I don't see the down side as long as they don't roast my nuts or interfere with movement.

Beyond, not sure what you mean but I was an early adopter of helmets.
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