Joe has to stay, if for no other reason than there's nobody better to replace him. Personally, I think he's a great manager (for the Yankees) though I can understand people who feel a change is needed. But change just for change's sake is meaningless, and there's nobody out there who could do a better job.
Donny Baseball has apparently taken himself out of the running. http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200...ees_bench.html LaRussa is likely going to be available, as he is un happy that the Cards bfired the GM, who is well thought of and Tony's friend...kinda wonder how LaRussa would do w/ the NY media.
Following in Torre's footsteps is going to be tough for anyone, but a new manager is in the cards.
The Yankees mission statement is to win the WOrld Series.
The Stankees have not won in 7 years.
What other business would the leader be allowed to miss the mission statement for 7 straight years and not be canned?
Torre is an average strategist at best, but his ability to deal with the media in NY is where others will have difficulty. BTW, I'm pretty sure I could have won with the teams they had when they were winning a while back. They always had 4 solid starters that could have been #1 starters on most any other team. They had a great bullpen that could work 3 innings per game. They also had guys sitting on the bench that would start and be the main RBI guys on many teams. Decisions are much easier to make when you're stacked like that. Let's see, which great player should I put in now?
Girardi will be the man and then Mattingly so he doesn't have to follow Torre.
I heard Steinbrenner asked the devil about bring Billy Marten back from the dead. The devil said it would cost George the soul of one of his sons. George pondered for a minute then asked, "What's the catch?"
Lou Pinella is coming up on the rotation. Throwing chairs and bases beating up his office and kicking dirt on umpires makes him a natural Yankee manager. Besides he has experience there. They need someone to wake that team up or help decide to move the players that aren't getting it done.
I agree. As a long time Yankee fan(lifetime actually), Torre got a raw deal. I think it's time to see a youth movement where overpaid steroid hypsters are gone and the farm team products get their chance to show their talents. Keep Posada, Cano, Phillips, Cabrerra, the young pitching staff and unload the rest.
A raw deal? How? It's time to retire the comfortable old leather chair.
They should have had the balls to just hire a new manager outright rather than going through the subterfuge of offering Torre a contract they know he would refuse.
I agree it was all a big PR ploy so they don't piss off too many fans. He hasn't done anything special in 7 years so can him like every other team/business would do. The offer was 1.5 MM more than the next highest paid manager (Piniella) even without hitting any incentives. If he won a round of playoffs he would be even, and getting to the WS he would make an extra 1 mil. Sounds like he was treated fairly to me. Joe was a classy guy and did well for them but it's time for a change. (BTW, I hate the Yanks).
Well, isn't that precisely the point? George has obviously lost it; he would never have gone through that charade. His sons were fed line of bull about needing a PR coup, and they swallowed it whole. Now it's going to bite them in the ass because it's so transparent. Donnie is probably the only manager who will be acceptable to the Core (Derek/Jorge/Mo/Andy) and he doesn't (yet) have the baseball or people skills for the job.
Girardi isn't the right guy at the right time, though I certainly agree that strictly from a baseball standpoint he'd be the best choice.
Girardi. He's up to lighting a fire under an ass or two if need be and "gets" the whole New York deal. He's also shown he can manage a ballclub. I guess I wonder, though, if he's too independent-minded for Son of Steinbrenner - this trait seems not to have served him so well in Flahduh - or, for that matter, if there's a player or two who wouldn't take well to a touch not quite as warm and fuzzy as Torre's.
Everyone loves and respects the guy, but over a pretty long career, he's never been on a winning team as a player or a coach, which is quite a feat if you're associatied with the Yankees. Not that it's necessarily his fault, but a lot of NYers see him as a baseball version of the Eddie Mush character from the movie "A Bronx Tale":
Eddie Mush was a degenerate gambler.
He was the world's biggest loser.
He was "Mush" because everything he touched turned to mush.
At the track, the teller would give him his tickets ripped up.