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A 175ish GS inspired ski

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
I'm looking for a 175ish GS inspired and ski to use as an intermitinary between a slalom ski and a FIS legal GS ski (basically until I have the confidence to control a GS ski at those speeds).

I'll be purchasing at the end of season, don't really care about brands, just need a good stepping stone. I like stiff skis, though I may need soft - but they can't be Volkl Racetiger soft (those things are noodles, I literally fell three times on the face trying them out as a ski racing partner tried out my stockli's). N.B. Those were the slalom skis.
post #2 of 22
I enjoyed my demo of the Fischer RX-9 at that size. Quite a deluxe ride. Handled my over-weight self easily.
post #3 of 22
Fischer RC4 RC - great ski.
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
Isn't the RC4 their race ski? I think I owned it in the past.

hah
post #5 of 22
The Worldcup RC is a "cheater" GS ski with a 15-17 meter turn radius: http://www.ski-depot.com/miva/mercha...roduct_Count=2

The Worldcup GS is the FIS model with a 21 + meter TR.
post #6 of 22
Thread Starter 
Oh, maybe that is why it was 100 or so at the ski shop. ; -)

Heluva, how does it compare to stiffness (say with your Stormriders)?
post #7 of 22
The RC4 is an entire line of race skis.

It consists of (also includes DH and SG skis):
RC4 WC GS (stock)
RC4 WC RC
RC4 WC SL (stock)
RC4 WC SC
RC4 Progressor (another good choice)
RC4 Race SC (softer than the WC SC)
post #8 of 22
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Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
Heluva, how does it compare to stiffness (say with your Stormriders)?
The pair of RC's I have are not really comparable to the Stormriders I don't think. The flex patterns are totally different. The Fischer is overall, probably a bit stiffer, but it has a sidecut that is half of what the Stormrider is, so they are super easy to turn while delivering a lot of rebound. The Stormrider is also very soft in the tip for use off piste... the RC4 is just the opposite - very stiff in the tip for racing/carving. In comparison the RC is a cake walk to ski on compared to the Stormrider... FWIW, I can make an RC ski slalom turns in a 175.
post #9 of 22
Fischer Worldcup RC 175cm 16m radius.
Fischer Progressor 175cm 16m radius.
You can't go wrong with either one!
post #10 of 22
Interesting.

I vote for a cheater GS ski, but longer than 175. Buy the RC in a 180 or 185. Still a significantly shorter radius, but with all the benefits and disadvantages of a longer ski. Very important if you plan on going to a real GS ski at some point.
post #11 of 22
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Originally Posted by Buckwild View Post
Fischer Worldcup RC 175cm 16m radius.
Fischer Progressor 175cm 16m radius.
You can't go wrong with either one!
Isn't the progressor a LOT softer than the RC?
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
Fischer RC4 RC - great ski.
I agree.
post #13 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
Interesting.

I vote for a cheater GS ski, but longer than 175. Buy the RC in a 180 or 185. Still a significantly shorter radius, but with all the benefits and disadvantages of a longer ski. Very important if you plan on going to a real GS ski at some point.
I think that might be pushing it...

I had Stockli Laser GS 183s and couldn't turn them. AT ALL. One run and I was done. Never really did GS again.

I'm looking at a Mt. Hood ski program this summer/fall and would want to get into the GS gates. Then 2008/2009, get into some GS events.

I am still VERY afraid of the speed that comes with GS and am afraid of falling and ruining my knee again. I want to take it sloooow.

So what if I have to spend 300 on a used pair for a few weeks? If it helps the transition, why not?

Thoughts?
post #14 of 22
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post #15 of 22
I still think you need to learn to work with the longer ski before you take all the shape away (particularly because of what you are saying about having a hard time turning them) but yes, if you are more comfortable transitioning on the shorter thing then go for it.

Consider: The length and radius requirement for GS skis are to protect you from injury, not make injury more likely. If you have been skiing GS on short/turny skis and then go to a long/straight one, you will have a period of adjustment where you are going too straight and low and making last minute athletic moves which are a way to get yourself in trouble. I think getting on longer skis and getting comfortable with them freeskiing is really important. You need to be prepared to use tactics to ensure you are putting yourself into a turn you can make. Its not the ski that controls the speed, it is you...I'm honestly not a very fast skier but I'm one hundred percent comfortable making GS turns at my speed on good pitches.

Some people are more quickly adaptable than me, but I'm definitely someone who needs a couple runs on my GS skis before I feel comfortable coming from my SL skis.
post #16 of 22
All great suggestions so far. I'll toss one of my favourites in here - the Head Supershape Speed. It's very similar to some of the Fischer RC4 series. It's a race construction sandwich ski, but a tighter radius and softer flex (don't let that fool you, it's still a pretty stiff ski, just not so much as a racestock ski) than the true race skis. In 177 it's a 15.5 radius, and if you want to get closer to a true GS feel, there's a 184, not sure what the radius is, but likely 16-17.
Very powerful ski that will strongly reward good technique. You can't go wrong with it or any of the other skis mentioned here.
post #17 of 22
I bought a pair of 174 cm Dynamic VR 27 (15 meter radius) last year on ebay at a low price. A couple of weeks ago I saw this ski on ebay, it had different graphics than what I have but appeared to be the same ski with an Atomic binding and plate for a very low price. I really like the ski for free skiing. Its described as a short turning GS ski in one of the Ski magazine reviews from a few years ago. I think its a 2004 model ski and got very good reviews.

Are there better choices out there; more than likely. But for a couple of hundred dollars with a binding and plate you're getting a pretty decent setup to achieve what you would like to do.

I don't race, but maybe these skis are fast too. When my friend and I were skiing last spring, we'd both start out off the lift together, and I would just "run away" from him. It seemed like these skis, with no special base preparation would free run much faster than my other skis.
post #18 of 22
Oo-rah for Dynamic skis. For us east coasters, they're a great unknown ski. I got a pair of VR17 slaloms for 59.99 less $50 cuz I bought my pass at the same sale. They're my favorite everyday east coast ski because I bought 'em long (173cm with a 12M TR). Plus they have kind of a modern retro graphic that recalls the glory days of Killy and Mittermayr.:
post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 
12m tr is less than my SL race skis.
post #20 of 22
Head XRC1400?
post #21 of 22
Longest Elan Ripstick or this year's version (GSX?) - Read Dawcatching's reviews.
post #22 of 22
The Fischer WC RC was a brute of a race-carver. My 175cm RCs were stiffer than my Fischer WC GSs, with a lot more camber, but the added sidecut made them manageable. Wicked edge hold and very stable at speed.

I've had just about every manufacturer's race carver over the past few seasons, and my favorites for at-speed cruising were the Atomic GS:R and the Dynamic VR27 Geant (both at 181cm with about a 15M radius). Nice smooth finish to the turn and decent edge hold.

You might also look at the softer GS skis available, like the Rossignol 9X/Radical RK and the Elan GSX. Nice, round flex patterns that don't beat you up, even with a radius around 24M.
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