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I don't understand...

post #1 of 12
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...how people can read skiing advice and then actually improve their skiing because of it.

I mean look, god bless you if you can, but I just don't understand how that works.

For me, I need to be on skis, on the mountain, and have someone say; "try this" or "try that" so that I can actually DO what's suggested.

Am I the only one who seems to be incapable of taking written skiing lessons?
post #2 of 12
LOL, I used to feel the same way you did! But there are some teachers on this board who are so brilliant, dynamic and descriptive with their language skills that I can FEEL what they are talking about when they write!
I do find that it is more challenging for me to follow some of the techno talk in the off season. Probably why I keep annoying everybody by posting all these non technical threads!
post #3 of 12
Nakona. I'm in the same boat, you're not alone. I have to be there and see it. Having been steeped in the business of instruction for the last 11 years (that's more than a third of my life!) I'm used to all the talk and written word. The way I learn from it is to try and recall what I've read and heard when I get back on the snow. As some will attest, there hae been some tips that I didn't understand until YEARS after I heard them. I'd be skiing with some friends and stop in the middle of the run going, "Holy sh##! That's what so-and-so was talking about last year!"

I guess I'm weird like that. I'm of the firm belief that all this (the forum) is extremely valuable, but I can't really affect a change, mentally or in practice, until I'm on the white.

post #4 of 12
I guess that's one reason I keep standing up, pressing against door jambs, rolling this, tipping that. The other reason is my butt goes to sleep.
Spag, remember the epihany LuckyRu had, like all of a sudden he was hit on the head switch with an ah-hah shovel!
Nakona, most of those literary cues are converted into mind images for me. They are usually vivid, self-imagery flicks that I somehow can recall...weird. Just wish I didn't have to wait through all the commercials and trailers in the mean time. On with the show!<FONT size="1">

[This message has been edited by Robin (edited September 08, 2001).]</FONT>
post #5 of 12
Now that's interesting, Spag, since you are one of the guys with the gift for words!
post #6 of 12
BLUSH! Thank you LM! Many times it is your thought-provoking questions that get me started. My compliments to you as well. (we're going to make everyone sick!)

Robin. If I remember correctly, Lucky RYO was ACTUALLY hit in the head with the shovel. His epiphany was "Maybe we shouldn't be hucking copters while carrying a drill and a No. 10 grain scoop!"

Lucky RYO's other epiphany came after bein hit in the head with a Texan. "Fly-bys on guys with twice my muscle mass are not a good idea!" or "When in a fight, try not to lead with your face. Especially when you are still locked into your bindings."

Oh, Lucky RYO. Where art thou?<FONT size="1">

[This message has been edited by Notorious Spag (edited September 08, 2001).]</FONT>
post #7 of 12
Well i havn't had the chance to try to put the info i've gained from this foruminto practise yet because i'm fairly new here. But i have thought that once i get to the snow i will probably forget everything. I am considering writing down the most important tips and putting then on a laminated card and actually taking them! May be too annoying but i think i'll give it a try anyways. Anything which will help my learning to progress i'm willing to give a shot
post #8 of 12
Pay no attention to this since I am a teacher (used to it ) but haven't been hired on as PSIA yet (hopeful). Learning styles! Some are doers, some are listeners, some are see-ers.
If you read something you wish to try, read it just before going up on the hill. Think about it. Don't try to remember everything. Just try one item to work on. In other words, don't nit-pick it to death!
In golf there are so many things to htink about. Doing so all at once ruins you! I chose one thing to work on. It corrected my slice, but then my shots took a line drive off to the left which meant I wasn't lined up right. I wasn't worried about it because this showed I was on the right track. Next I chose alignment to work on.
Work on one thing at a time, or it ain't gonna be no funners!

Life's a pain... then you nap. Cat philosphy
post #9 of 12

Some skiers never took a lesson, and everything they have learned comes from written material. I am such a skier. I often try to apply the various techniques that I read about, when I get to the slopes. So that is how it works.

Mind you, I am the first to say that the "no lessons" route is the long way to learning how to ski. There are many skiers that have never taken lessons (or have taken a couple and then never returned) and they end up as terminal intermediates, unless they get a lot of ski-days and they pay some attention to technique.
post #10 of 12
"...how people can read skiing advice and then actually improve their skiing because of it.
I mean look, god bless you if you can, but I just don't understand how that works.

For me, I need to be on skis, on the mountain, and have someone say; "try this" or "try that" so that I can actually DO what's suggested.

Am I the only one who seems to be incapable of taking written skiing lessons?"

Thats because you haven't tried reading the NEW!! SCSA way
post #11 of 12

I think jyardog has some good advice as do others about working on one thing at a time. What you are attempting to do is to take a concept or thought, and translate it into physical action.

I think Lito Tejadas Flores does a wonderful job of writng so that the proper images do form in your mind. His books and tapes can be found at amazon.com

I think there are very few of us that can get away without having to take some lessons, but the " correct" ideas of others will be enhanced by the lessons, could make more sense after the lessons, or will be a stimulus to want to learn how to do something specifically either through a lesson format or practice on your own.

Remember we all learn in a variety of ways and you will discover what works best for you.

Taking an idea, and or mental image, or group of images, and translating it into physical action is a complicated task. So be patient with yourself. Give yourself time to learn and enjoy the sport. Don't become obsessive or compulsive in your approach. Don't forget, it is about having fun, and that leads to....

Happy Skiing
post #12 of 12

Here is something general for you to consider....

THINK about what you want to do and how you are going to do it at the top of the run. Have a mental image of the run before you push down the hill.

Once moving concentrate how things FEEL and try to memorize those feelings.

At the bottom (and while on the chairlift) anayze what felt good and what did not and relate it to what you were trying to do. Adjust your plan for the next run.

Alot of people are overanalyzing their actions on the slope. It is not hard to spot that type: seems like they do everything ok technically, but there is little to no fluidity in their movemnent and they never seem at ease. 9 out of 10 times the reason is that they have to think through every move they make. And that is a slow process. Ultimate goal is to eliminate thinking component from your skiing (just leave "strategical planning" in that department). And the way to achieve it is to make your body react to the way IT FEELS.

See if at the bottom of a run you can say: "I'm not sure how many turns I made, where exactly I made them, how many ice patches that I hit on my way and what I did to stay in balance going over that last knoll, but this run JUST FELT GREAT"


Speed does not kill, the difference in it does...
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