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Poll Results: What do you think about skiing vs snowboarding?

 
  • 90% (70)
    SKIING ROCKS. SKIING IS MY LIFE. :)
  • 2% (2)
    Ehh..I don't do either so I don't care.
  • 6% (5)
    Eww skiing is gay and it's for nerds.. Snowboarding is so much cooler.
77 Total Votes  
post #61 of 87
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Originally Posted by Posaune View Post

You're right, I didn't read the whole thing. The first thing I saw was the "gay" quote and I went ahead and gave my opinion of using it. I rarely read every word of every post, especially when I'm offended by the post. Putting that in the original poll just asks for misjudgement.

However, an apology is due, so here it is: I should not have jumped to conclusions and I should have read more carefully. Now let's ski.
That's an excellent way to go about life. You should quit your job and volunteer full time coaching high school debate teams.

As for the original topic of discussion: I also do both...poorly I might add. Each form of recreation has its pros an cons...each is really fun. I would say when it comes to mountain etiquette, snowboarders are worse, but skiers (especially newschooler types) are catching up fast!
post #62 of 87
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Originally Posted by neiche View Post
~~The big controversy: Skiing vs Snowboarding~~

I'm only 14, and I'm already devoted to skiing. I love it and all of it's aspects in every way. I ski every single weekend of the winter.

Recently, well not really recently, I've been so fed up with people's opinions on the ski vs snowboard thing.

Most popular kids my age will say this: "Dude, skiing is so gay. Snowboarding is so much cooler".

WTF? :

First of all, well I'm not going to get into it, but the whole "that's so gay" thing is so irritating also. But I just don't understand WHY people would think snowboarding is "cooler" than skiing. Maybe if they are really good at it and really enjoy it and maybe have tried skiing and don't like it as much. But most likely that's not the case.

"Two boards are better than one" is what I tend to say.

So yeah, I mean how did the whole "snowboarding is better" thing start?

I'm going to make two lists. One list will be WHY skiing is better than snowboarding. The second life will be MAYBE WHY people think snowboarding is better.

Why skiing is better than snowboarding

-On skis, you are more balanced then on a snowboard.

-Doing tricks like spinning(360's, etc) looks so much better than snowboarding tricks.

-You are facing forward down the hill (unless you are going backwards ), whereas snowboarding you are having to look sideways.

-When snowboarders stop, they usually sit on their butts, where we can just stand all the time.

-We can go where ever we want, trees, side trails, etc, where snowboarders are SOMETIMES limited to certain places.

-Supposedly, snowboarding is more dangerous.


Why people think snowboarding is cooler (think)

-They think snowboards can do better jumps.

-...peer pressure..."snowboarding is cooler"

-"Skiing is for nerds". Ick.









now lets all have a discussion and you can add stuff to the list if you want.

Thanks for reading!


-Nick/neiche


Also just vote on the poll for the heck of it.
:P
this arguement is so 90s....

just remember you probably ski on twin tips, or shaped skis, with out snowboarding those type of skis would never exsit...and in alot of ways twin tips started with skiboarders who reliezed that the 100cm ski board were simply not long enough for anything.

I love how sports can have sexual prefence too. Using the term gay make all of you sound like the 14 year old.

Skiing is way easier to start out on but lets be honest here, people get stuck in the intermiedate rut because its very easy to do defensive movement on skis.

Snowboarding is WAY tougher to start on, but once you get the middle level the upper levels are alot easy to abtain.

When I was teen I started snowboarding for more than a couple years, yep that right I snowboarded first. I was ok could do all the slopes at Hidden Valley in skidded turns and hit jumps. IN the end I just didnt like going sideways and having to buckle in each time.

Being a aggro inliner I was very excited when line and salomon started produce ski boards at the time most people were still on long straight non twin tip skis and just tail pushed all the ways down the run. The skiboards could carve and hitting jumps was very easy. Great skiboarders like Mike Nick(great skier now) and Eric Pollard(once snowboarder, now a great skier) and great freeskiers like Shane McConkey and Seth Morrision didnt know it at the time, but in couple years with help from lots of other people who create a totally new part of the sport. Freestyle park skiing...which is the best thing to happen to skiing in the past 10 years.

So if you want to keep hating on snowboarders, skiers, or even skiboarders. Just remember that if one of the above didnt exsit, you equipment wouldnt be the same today. With out skiing, Snowboarding wouldnt of progressed in design as much as it did early. With out snowboarding skiboards, the first truly widely used shaped skis would of never came about(yes at my home mountian more people used these than shaped skis). and for the snobby skier, with out snowboarding and with out skiboarding, you would still all be skiing 205s for everything. Man would that suck.
post #63 of 87
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Originally Posted by RickDerris View Post
What? You lost me at .
post #64 of 87
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Originally Posted by tief schnee View Post
What? You lost me at .
Comments were not directed at you...but rather the jackhole that decided to tear into you (a 14 yr old I might add) without even reading your entire post because his precious feelings were hurt.
post #65 of 87
This thread is pointless. What's the problem here? Did some snowboarders rag on you for being a skier? Oh well, forget them. Most people are still viewing skiing as a bunch of racers. It will change eventually but until then your statements about why you hate snowboarding are just as bad as the other way around. I ski with a few skiers and a few boarders. We're all there to have a fun. As soon as you realize that you'll be a lot happier. Just remember, most of the idiots who have some sort of hate for skiing or hate for boarding usually aren't very competent at either; which says a lot about you if you catch my drift.
post #66 of 87
some of the coolest people i've ridden with over the years have been boarders.

that said quite a few of them were converts from skiing who took up boarding in the '80s and therefore kept their O.G. skiing mentality (i.e. they weren't all baggy pants, tatoos, and "Ay Yo Homey!" like the stereotype of boarders has seemed to evolve into over the years).

one of my good and longtime riding buddies switches between a hard boot set up on a swallow tail carver and tele. I credit him with getting me off-piste and broadening the scope of my skiing to look beyond the groomed trails and gravitate toward the goods.

so yeah, this is a pointless thread. the real reason being that no matter where you go in the world there will always be a-holes, whether they ski, hike, camp, sit in the lodge, tele or yes, even snowboard. the key is to weed those a-holes out and ride with people who are cool, regardless of their stance (i.e. regardless of being binded, freeheeled, or softbooted).
post #67 of 87
hmm, I will say a good portion of the truly good snowboarders I've met were california types. pretty darn rare on the right coast, perhaps for obvious reasons.

no beef with good snowboarders. my beef is with jackhats that snowboard a couple days a year and think that makes them cool. the reality is that the latter group vastly outnumbers the former. i can count on one hand the number of times I've been out on a hill and thought "damn, there are a bunch of sick people on boards here today." and usually those were industry events or conventions of alpine riders.
post #68 of 87
The truth is we need each other, the snowsports industry (including the mountains), couldn't survive w/out both. We all need to just "chill"(I love that snowboarder talk) :-)

1990: How does a snowboarder introduce themself:
Whoa.....sorry dude
post #69 of 87
I can't imagine anything being better than skiing! I watch boarders all the time and I just don't get it.
I lost my brother to the dark side last year and he is working really hard to make me try it. My brother said he was bored of skiing and wanted something new!!??!! :

I can't even watch snowboarding on tv.

Seems like skiing is faster, and you can get more air and do better tricks in the park imho
post #70 of 87
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Originally Posted by RickDerris View Post
Comments were not directed at you...but rather the jackhole that decided to tear into you (a 14 yr old I might add) without even reading your entire post because his precious feelings were hurt.
Obviously, your comprehension skills are equally bad.
post #71 of 87
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
this arguement is so 90s....

just remember you probably ski on twin tips, or shaped skis, with out snowboarding those type of skis would never exsit...and in alot of ways twin tips started with skiboarders who reliezed that the 100cm ski board were simply not long enough for anything.

I love how sports can have sexual prefence too. Using the term gay make all of you sound like the 14 year old.

Skiing is way easier to start out on but lets be honest here, people get stuck in the intermiedate rut because its very easy to do defensive movement on skis.

Snowboarding is WAY tougher to start on, but once you get the middle level the upper levels are alot easy to abtain.

When I was teen I started snowboarding for more than a couple years, yep that right I snowboarded first. I was ok could do all the slopes at Hidden Valley in skidded turns and hit jumps. IN the end I just didnt like going sideways and having to buckle in each time.

Being a aggro inliner I was very excited when line and salomon started produce ski boards at the time most people were still on long straight non twin tip skis and just tail pushed all the ways down the run. The skiboards could carve and hitting jumps was very easy. Great skiboarders like Mike Nick(great skier now) and Eric Pollard(once snowboarder, now a great skier) and great freeskiers like Shane McConkey and Seth Morrision didnt know it at the time, but in couple years with help from lots of other people who create a totally new part of the sport. Freestyle park skiing...which is the best thing to happen to skiing in the past 10 years.

So if you want to keep hating on snowboarders, skiers, or even skiboarders. Just remember that if one of the above didnt exsit, you equipment wouldnt be the same today. With out skiing, Snowboarding wouldnt of progressed in design as much as it did early. With out snowboarding skiboards, the first truly widely used shaped skis would of never came about(yes at my home mountian more people used these than shaped skis). and for the snobby skier, with out snowboarding and with out skiboarding, you would still all be skiing 205s for everything. Man would that suck.
Bull pucky. You have no evidence for your conclusions. Just because there was cross influence, doesn't mean that the idea of shaped skis wouldn't have been developed independently, actually to suggest so, is ludicris.

BTW If I was still skiing 205s (I actually just bought some 200s ), I'd still be having fun, and rockin' them. You may not know this, but skiing back then was just as fun as it is now, it just took more skill to do it well.
post #72 of 87

Perceptions propogated by resorts?

I'm fairly new to skiing (4 years). Even though I don't have a problem with snowboarders at all, I get my perception of the ski/snowboarding world alot from web sites, and I sense that "so 90s - us against them" attitude from the words on alta's website:

"Alta is a SKIER'S mountain
Snowboarding is not allowed"

I'm not judging Alta's motives here, but on the surface, at least to me, I read it "SKIER's are superior and the mountain at Alta is for you". "Sorry snowboarders, you can't come here".

I'm not saying that Alta needs to admit snowboarders. But why don't they just say:

"Sorry, snowboarding not allowed", rather than emphasize that it is a skiers' mountain?
post #73 of 87
Meh, Alta has its fair share of pretty aggro people, perhaps one of them works in marketing.

Regardless of what Alta says or does, why would snowboarders want to go to Alta when Snowbird is next door? I love Alta, and I understand the arguments that the traverses keep the gapers away, but who on a snowboard wants anything to do with 'em?
post #74 of 87
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
The controversy? Them hillfrogs keep leaving grooves in the slopes from dragging their knuckles, that's what!
hahaha.... nice! everytime i see a snowboarder i'm gonna see them as "hillfrogs dragging their knuckles" you made my day one thing that really irks me about snowboarders is when they suck and think it would be funny to try to jump the tips of my skis...and then land on them...thats why skiers have poles...to wop em on the side of their head...lol other than that, it's the same ol' thing. "Can't we all just get along?" I mean skiers and snowboarders have to face it, we have to coexist and it would make it a lot easier if everybody respected everyone else. I mean i dont think its very likely that we see segregation on the mountains anytime soon.
post #75 of 87
Isn't this a little biased, considering this is a mainly skiing forum? Anyhow, I've done both skiing and snowboarding and I have come to the coclusion that I like skiing better. Snowboarding is so much harder for me to do (probably because I skied first). I that riding on skis gives you more control. I find skiing to be so much more fun, but thats just me.
post #76 of 87
Thread Starter 
Alright, I'm going to let this thread live another day then it must perish.
post #77 of 87
Thread Starter 
But of course my under-developed brain will not permit me to delete this thread therefor I may need someones help or a mod or something.
*snaps fingers*
post #78 of 87
A snowboard is just a big fat ski that someone skis sideways on.
post #79 of 87

the best of the best-boards and skis

At Squaw, the best riders, boards and skis, are all pretty bad-as-. and therefore gnar, sick, and cool. They always ride when and where there is plenty of room to do their thing. And their thing is totally sick. The problem comes with the lesser athletes on boards. My gripe is this, they turn when and where they HAVE TO, totally by default, a function of lack of skill and talent, not where they CHOSE TO, as even an average skier is inclined to do. that sucks. those dudes have no concept of line, yours or their own. and that causes problems, ie the near miss situation at best, the messed up collision at worst. Yeah, we are way biased in this forum as it is a ski forum, heck yeah! Idea for an experiment to prove a point: take a very large face and split it down the middle at the start of a fresh pow day. boards on one side, skis on the other. note the progress of snow deterioration one side relative to the other. any guesses how that will go? funny story: one day Ambrosia was sick and untracked, a run with major hero factor. When I got to the boot pack, it was a sheet of ice with a rhine. two boarders had just gotten their boards off and started up. I jumped out of my skis and started up behind them in hot pursuit (this line has only one room for one first track). they were flailing horribly, digging holds with their boards, clawing with their fingers, slipping back with every step, and totally sweating crashing all the way back down the rocky pitch. I was wearing ski boots, hard, sharp toed, armored plastic ski boots and I steadily gained on them, kicking toe holds one by one as I closed the gap. Yep, passed them 30 ft. from the top, stepped into the bindings (another 90 second advantage over their gear) and dropped in---not a track, two feet of dicey, fresh wind load pow. adrenaline in Ambrosia. eat that boarders. no really, they were cool and had to laugh and cry at their own dilemna!
post #80 of 87
No time to read this whole thread...so, sorry if this isn't relevant.

I do both, board, and ski. When I started boarding I did that more than ski for a few years. The last few years it's reversed, and I ski more than I board. I find skis much more versatile (given my skill levels at both), less scary at higher speeds (again, skill level), and better in a variety of snow conditions. What I like best about boarding is powder -- and no, I don't track up the whole run...powder on a board is like floating through clouds...just a great feeling. Problem is...I hate to not be on my skis on powder days too.

But...as for controversy? If people are staying withing their limits, learning under control, so that by the time they can go big they have enoug sense to be safe and follow mountain etiquette....I got no problem with either. Maybe more old folks should take up snowboarding to give it a better reputation
post #81 of 87
I started skiing when i was 4 and have been skiing 8 years now and i love it! my favorite thing is skiing in the west but since i live in Maryland it's not that easy. So even though when i go skiing in Pennsylvania it's still fun even though all of it is a piece of cake it's just great being out there! and that proves why skiing is such a fabulous sport maybe very expensive but i still do it because it's so thrilling and the adrenaline is great and even if ur on some powder on a steep pitch at Snowmass in CO or if your on a little groomer at Roundtop PA it's just the best and I like it more than anything except for friends and family etc. And Even if you 99 or 12 like i am i don't blame you at all if you just want to go out and have fun! Some of my friends say i don't want to go skiing cause all tear my ACL but u won't if u Snowboard well that's obviously not true anyways i don't see how u could not like Skiing even if your out there snowboarding it;s still good just to be out there

GO SKIING AND SNOWBOARDING
post #82 of 87

I think they're both pretty cool

If you're cool your cool. If your not there isn't any sport that's gonna make you so. If you can't give props when there due you're probably not due any yourself. I decided to stay in the winter sports business in no small part because of the people I met in it. More than a few were boarders. :
post #83 of 87

Snowsports

:I am a skiier by nature and at heart. I also like to surf and skateboard. I am slightly addicted to adrenaline. My opinion is if you find some snow and an incline, make your way down and have fun, try not to kill yourself and don't be a jerk to others. If you are accomplishing those things, I don't think you should concern yourself on what other people think is cool or not cool.
Have fun and Pray for snow
post #84 of 87
I do both although I am much better on skis. Mostly because I spend way more time on skis. I like snowboarding because the carve is so pure. It is a great way to tear up a fall line and may have some advantages in deep or unstable snow. I don't like giving up my independent leg action and being able to traverse or side step up and across the hill. Snowboarding forces me to see the mountain differently. I have to carry more speed across flats and into long traverses for example. I like the heel/toe side dichotomy. I don't like having a blind side. Neither one is better than the other, they are just different. Riding in all three disciplines has made me better across the board. It hasn't made me gay. Mono boards do that.
post #85 of 87
I started skiing 11 years ago and snowboarding 7 years ago. I figured since I wasn't that good a skier yet that it would be a good time to try snowboarding and compare. I do both although I've been mostly snowboarding the last couple years. Doesn't matter who does what. As long as you have fun, who cares? I've met/seen idiot boarders and skiers. Another complaint is boarders sitting across trails. You do get boarders that sit across the trails that people get angry at, but you also get skiers standing around in those same places. ( I always go to the side to avoid getting killed! ) It's not the equipment, but the person who uses it. In my opinion Skiing is easier to learn, but harder to get really good at. Snowboarding is harder to learn, but once you get through that first few days you advance much faster.

Just have fun and don't worry about what other people think.
I don't! LOL!
post #86 of 87

The most important reason that we snowboarders think we are cooler is because EVERYONE HATES US. And for us, we all like that feeling because we laugh at those people who hate us so. I cannot tell you how many times that I have seen an overreaction on an average crash JUST BECAUSE that person is a snowboarder.

Long story short,
We adopt this attitude (and this stereotype) because we, as snowboarders are really hated. THEN when we do bad stuff, we are viewed as “badasses” because of the stereotype we have been assigned by all non-snowboarders. What I am really trying to say is that we are known as being “hip” or “badass” or simply just bad because we are KNOWN for doing stuff like that, when you join the community of snowboarders, you are literally accepting that you WILL be hated by skiers, you WILL get in more trouble for the same offenses.
 
So to sum it up: We are known to be this because that is what we are SEEN doing. That is what our stereotype is as a snowboarder. Thats why we are “badass.” Our image as a snowboarder is being “bad” hence, that reputation.
 
Also just short little thing,
You are posting on a skiing website.
post #87 of 87
Seriously, this was an old topic back in 2007.
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