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post #1 of 8
10/10/07 at 4:12am
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Hiya all, hope you're getting in shape for a season which may do without me, work related not injury.

My new routine is this:

Stationary cycling medium revs., 30 minutes
Machine workouts (3 days legs and bi/triceps), 1 day shoulders, 1 day chest, 1 day back
Swim 35 minutes

Question: Should I cycle and swim one after the other, or is it OK to do the machines in between? Does it really make a difference in which order I do it all?

Mind you, swimming will always be last 'cause it cools me down, and i don't have to shower!

Gracias.
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post #2 of 8
10/10/07 at 5:21am
Not that you can't do this workout, but lifting (anaeorbic) and combining cardio (aerobic) is very intense. That is, if you do cardio exercise intensely, then lift weights intensely, this is very shocking to your system. Particularly, if you are hot and then jump in an olympic pool that is very cool. Watch your heart rate. I would recommend either doing split routines, for example: cardio in the AM and weights in the PM. Or do cardio and lift weights on alternate days. By any measure, keep a close eye on you heart rate, intensity level, and not a bad idea to monitor your blood pressure.
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post #3 of 8
10/12/07 at 3:30am
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Thanky amigo! Checked my pulse after machines and swimming, both times under 90. Good?
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post #4 of 8
10/12/07 at 6:41am
Et Hem...

A conditioning response generally happens at 70-85% maximum heart rate.

70% max heart rate is considered the minimum for conditioning in a young person.

85-95% max heart rate is usually necessary to achieve conditioning in an athlete.

The easy way to calculate max heart rate is 220-age.

Exercise heart rate as a percentage of max heart rate. The percentage varies on the fitness level of the person. Average person is usually 60-70% of Max.

Karovonen's formula:
HRR=Heart rate at rest
HRM=Heart rate maximum
Exercise heart rate=HRR+60%-70%(HRM-HRR)

A 20-30 minute exercise session is generally optimal at 70% Max heart rate. If you are unable to get your 70% max heart rateeither increase the time or intensity.

You heart rate should return to your resting HR within a couple minutes of completing exercise.

Average resting heart rate for a 17-18 year old male 60-65 beats per minute. 75 beats per minute in a sedentary young man.
It tends to go down with conditioning, assuming you are healthy. I just checked mine it was 54 beats per minute.

Hope this helps. $100 please.:
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post #5 of 8
10/13/07 at 7:59pm
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Originally Posted by Gpaul View Post
, and i don't have to shower!

Just reading that makes me get swimming pool itch.

<<shudddering spastic scratching frenzy>>>>>
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post #6 of 8
10/16/07 at 5:23pm
Depending on your athletic background, cycling for 30 minutes at low to medium intensity will only warm you up. But like I said, it all depends on your sporting background. It normally takes me about an hour to warm up on the bike and my warm up can go as high as 160 bpm heartrate. I can go hard after a 30 minute warmup (190 bpm) but my race quality will suffer. The longer my cycling warm up is - the better my race becomes. But that's just me....
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post #7 of 8
10/16/07 at 5:31pm
What's going on with the nutrition plan during warmup, both short (say 45 mins or less) and long?
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post #8 of 8
10/28/07 at 10:41am
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Question: Should I cycle and swim one after the other, or is it OK to do the machines in between? Does it really make a difference in which order I do it all?

So, any opinions on my original query (above)?

Also, for cardio benefits (I had a mild infarction 10 yrs. ago), which is better, cycling moderate for 1/2 hour or swimming moderate (I hold an 800 meter national record 50-54, 16 minutes, only swimmer in that range....) for the same 1/2 hour?

Gracias.
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