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Anyone like stiff boots?

post #1 of 18
10/9/07 at 1:30pm
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I just picked up a pair of 07-08 Burton Driver X's, and man oh man are these things stiff! This is my second pair, the first having done me proud over the last two seasons (roughly 70 days riding, two hikes up and down Mt. Washington, and various snowmobile trips). Unless my memory is failing me at the ripe old age of 28, I'm pretty sure this year's model is stiffer than those in years past. Either that, or I've got a long way to go to break them in.

Wearing them around the office ought to help with that process, eh?
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post #2 of 18
10/9/07 at 2:30pm
Driver X's are Burtons stiffest boot. You should try a pair of Salomon Malamutes if you like 'em stiff or go alpine...
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post #3 of 18
10/9/07 at 4:37pm
If you're taking a poll, I like stiff boots. I hope they work out for you. I imagine they will break in or you will adjust to them. Let us know with a gear report, I'm interested in boots like that.
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post #4 of 18
10/9/07 at 6:36pm
like stiff boots my self. I use the Salomon Malamutes, they fit great, confortable, and very stiff but not quite the DEELUXE Track 700 T.
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post #5 of 18
10/9/07 at 7:46pm
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Originally Posted by killclimbz View Post
Driver X's are Burtons stiffest boot. You should try a pair of Salomon Malamutes if you like 'em stiff or go alpine...
Coming from a skiing background (I still ski 35-40 days a year), I tend to gravitate towards stiff boots...weighing 155 lbs soaking wet, however, means the Driver X is as stiff as I'll ever go. I'm not much of a jibber on the board, so this boot dovetails nicely with my riding style.
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post #6 of 18
10/10/07 at 7:58am
I like stiff boots.
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post #7 of 18
10/10/07 at 8:10am
I also got a pair of the driver x. I love 'em. I ride a voile mountain gun splitty. It's about as stiff as a 2x4. But I still love soft snowboard boots as opposed to nuptse's or AT boots, so the driver x's are perfect. It helps when skinning too, every little bit helps traversing on a split. I also like the stiffness when I need to use crampons. And the vibram soles are nice when I'm actually hiking and not skinning.
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post #8 of 18
10/10/07 at 8:15am
I like stiff boots, provided they put me in a solid stance. Not too much forward lean or ramp angle.

I have skied in plug boots now for 5 seasons. 3 in a Salomon X2 Lab and 2 in a Head RD 96.

Head Raptor 150's should be here anyday! Actually love the way the RD 96 skis, but I am tired of the battle to get them on & off. have to use a hair dryer in the morning to get them warm enough to get them on. They are absolutley brutal.

The Raptors go on & off much more easily.

It will be intersting to see how different the Raptor skis from the RD 96 since the Raptor fits much lowere on the leg, has more forward lean and less ramp angle.

I will most likely replace the stock Head elastic power strap with a Booster strap since the Head power strap does not fit well between the shell & the tongue which is crucial for me due to my skinny lower legs.
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post #9 of 18
10/10/07 at 8:59pm
Uh, Atomicman, we're in the Snowboard gear forum over here buddy. You wouldn't perchance be using them raptors on an Alpine Snowboard would you? I wasn't aware that you'd gone over to the dark side.
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post #10 of 18
10/10/07 at 10:45pm
Oops!
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post #11 of 18
10/11/07 at 7:49am
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Originally Posted by therusty View Post
Uh, Atomicman, we're in the Snowboard gear forum over here buddy. You wouldn't perchance be using them raptors on an Alpine Snowboard would you? I wasn't aware that you'd gone over to the dark side.
Tsk, tsk, tsk...Yet everyone complains about snowboarders always being in the wrong place!

Just kidding, Atomicman. I frequently ski and ride in the same day, so I can appreciate what you said.
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post #12 of 18
10/11/07 at 8:11am
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Originally Posted by iskitoofast4u View Post
Tsk, tsk, tsk...Yet everyone complains about snowboarders always being in the wrong place!

Just kidding, Atomicman. I frequently ski and ride in the same day, so I can appreciate what you said.
Too much Espresso yesterday morning!
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post #13 of 18
10/12/07 at 1:48pm
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Too much Espresso yesterday morning!

It was a subliminal message from your subconscious. Telling you, start boarding, start boarding. And not neccessarily an airplane.
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post #14 of 18
10/12/07 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by 911over View Post
It was a subliminal message from your subconscious. Telling you, start boarding, start boarding. And not neccessarily an airplane.
Subliminal my arse! Just stupidity on my part! I ain't strapping on no lousy snowboard!
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post #15 of 18
11/14/07 at 11:45am
Hmm, both boots are loose compared to the old Dee Luxe soft boots, especially the step-in range with integrated highback used in a strap binding. Nothing comes close IMHO. Bad though they aren't available anymore.

And no, snowboard hardboots are stiff in a different sense. They build higher up, so provide more leverage, but forward flex is often softer (depending on model), sideways flex however is way stiffer, which makes sense too, as for hardboots you transfer most of your power laterally, while for softboots it's fore/after for power transfer.

My DeeLuxe were worn out, so now I'm in ****** Burton Driver X (now 3 years old, back then they were a bit stiffer than the following years), however that boot is crap crap crap. Can't close it properly (like all boots with those F fast lacing systems, as you can't close them with different pressure depending on place.) Wouldn't have bought them if I hadn't gotten them on proform for under 100. Tried Malamutes but they weren't much better for Freeriding. The Dee Luxe are still top IMHO but hard to get and quite expensive as I can't get them on a form.
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post #16 of 18
11/21/07 at 7:12pm
I quite like my Driver Xs in terms of design and function, but I wish the quality were better. I tore part of the strap that goes around the top of the liner on the second day or so that I wore them. The lacing system, while funky, works pretty well for me - the boots had to break in, but then they started to really embrace my foot.

I've also tried hardbooting. If I wasn't so busy skiing the second half of last season, I'd probably have put together an alpine setup.
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post #17 of 18
11/23/07 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by extremecarver View Post
Hmm, both boots are loose compared to the old Dee Luxe soft boots, especially the step-in range with integrated highback used in a strap binding. Nothing comes close IMHO. Bad though they aren't available anymore.
Interesting. These are the boots I use with my clicker step-ins (flat, not HB clickers). I love this set-up. I've learned from this forum that my bindings suck. Maybe this set-up works so well for me despite the (alleged) poor quality of the bindings because the boots are good.

Do you think this boot will work well with my new Flow bindings? I haven't tried yet, but I think they should do, despite or maybe because of the internal stiffeners that are necessary for use with the step ins.
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post #18 of 18
11/26/07 at 2:16pm

I Like Head...

Head Stratos Pro that is...you sickos.

yes. I ride alpine. Hardboots rock for carving. but I prefer a medium stiffness for softies, giving me a little more flexibility and comfort when teaching or running an event. also I like the forgiveness with my miniscule freestyle skills.
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