Originally Posted by Cirquerider
I think the salesman was going to keep the TNTs for himself.
There was a brief period when the plastics were prone to cracking, but I really liked that boot.
I'm not familiar with the Lange XR 8.5 but the Alpina is probably the lowest end boot you could have. If you found you could ski that, then this will probably be pretty nice. Good to see a 16 year old working hard to find gear and get ready for the season.
The only concern I have is that comfort is nice to have in a boot, but a good fit usually feels uncomfortably tight at first. Hope you got the fit you want. Just out of curiosity, what size street show do you wear, and what size are the Langes? Also, if you could describe your skiing style, terrain and frequency, it would be helpful to judge the appropriateness of these boots. Finally, keep in mind, many here are gear addicts. Don't feel bad when they inevitably recommend some high end boot you can't afford.
All of salesman there thought those boots were horrible. The one specifically I was talking to said he broke 2 pairs in a season. Then the other one stuck them in the no sale bin, they were against them in everyway.
The langes are a 28.5 I believe (tag said sz 10.5). I wear 11-11.5 street shoes. I figured I should go down a size (I previously would wear the same size as my street shoes). And yes I know that comfort isn't always the best (learned that the hard way last yr), these aren't as comfortable as the alpinas when trying them on, but the alpinas were the total opposite of comfort while skiing. These just felt "good" I'd say, my foot felt locked into position more.
As far as my skiiing style and such, I'm an aggressive skier. I'll mix it up between high-speed carving and pounding through the bumps. I stay out of the powder for the most part, I prefer hard pack/frozen granular surface where I can carve a perfect arc and pick up alot of speed in the process. Last yr I switched from always skidding to carving 90% of the time, mostly due to the GS:11s. So bumps and carving on hard pack, and I stay on the blacks and double blacks. In a season, I'll ski about 25 times.
Originally Posted by Philpug
The XR 8.5 is a mid 90's traditional Lange overlap. It was basicly a upper level HP model, a 8.5/10 on a scale.
By HP you mean high-performance I assume? If so that's good, just what I'm looking for.