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Bindings for my new "Goats"???

post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
I need suggestions for bindings for my new 183 Gotamas.

I settled on them after research and feedback from the forum here (thanks BTW)

I was going to ask earlier what might be a good binding to mount on them but got busy at work.

Low and behold SAC had the Rossi Axium Scratch 110 wide brakes on today so I jumped on them regardless.

http://sac.gearattack.com/items/2523

Would these be OK or should I pass and look for something else???:

DIN goes to 11 and I am usually only just over 7.
post #2 of 26
Goats with an 11DIN binding? How much do you weigh?
post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 
350lbs of pure clifff hucking solid muscle
post #4 of 26
Hmmmmmm. Could have fooled me. I would have thought you to be about 5'10 and about 185lbs.

Those bindings will work just fine.

Huck away.....................
post #5 of 26
Thread Starter 
Damn search function
OK.....maybe 187lbs after the pomagranite martini's tonight.
post #6 of 26
The Axium binding is an ejector seat, total waste of money...keep shopping.
post #7 of 26
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
The Axium binding is an ejector seat, total waste of money...keep shopping.
if you REALLY weight as much as you said this binding is not good for you: and the skis are to short anyway
for what the goats are made for you would need at least 190, maybe 197 (cause of the weight)

the best choice for you would be the Dujes (they go up to 16DIN).
of course:wide brakes
post #8 of 26
oops
supposed to be "Duke's" not dujes
post #9 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by kubagr View Post
if you REALLY weight as much as you said this binding is not good for you: and the skis are to short anyway
for what the goats are made for you would need at least 190, maybe 197 (cause of the weight)

the best choice for you would be the Dujes (they go up to 16DIN).
of course:wide brakes
That was a joke......185lbs ......I was found out shortly.
post #10 of 26
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Originally Posted by Deemo View Post
That was a joke......185lbs ......I was found out shortly.
thanks god

so 183 should be just fine
post #11 of 26
You're 185lbs and have a DIN setting of 7? I'd double check that. I know weight's just one of the variables (boot sole, height, level, age), but still that seems kinda low.
post #12 of 26
jester, or an STH16
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post
The Axium binding is an ejector seat, total waste of money...keep shopping.
Whiteroom knows his stuff, good binding for a teenager or maybe a beg/int female who is on the small side.

See if you can swap em, or put them up for sale for what you paid.

You looking for a touring binding?
post #14 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Ullr View Post
Whiteroom knows his stuff, good binding for a teenager or maybe a beg/int female who is on the small side.

See if you can swap em, or put them up for sale for what you paid.

You looking for a touring binding?
OK. Thanks.
Pretty damning reviews so I think I can sell them for what I paid.

Any other non touring options?????

The Gotama are supposed to show up tomorrow.....yeehaw:
post #15 of 26
MOJO 15


end
of
story.

really.
post #16 of 26
What he said.
post #17 of 26
I like the PX series but would stay away from the bindings you bought.

I use a Px12tis with a din set at 11 on mine. Great transfer of power to the ski and no prereleases.
post #18 of 26
Thread Starter 
I appreciate all the feedback by why are you guys recommending all of these high DIN bindings???

I was joking about the 350lbs.....you know that right???

I am 185lbs and 5'10" and (as mentioned before) advanced level (but refuse to say expert) skier.

I checked my Metrons and I am not getting early Alzheimers. They are set to just above 7.

I had one early release last year in a drift so I could bump them up a tad but above 8......not likely.

Boots are 27.5 I recall.
post #19 of 26
deadbolt 614
post #20 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
I like the PX series but would stay away from the bindings you bought.

I use a Px12tis with a din set at 11 on mine. Great transfer of power to the ski and no prereleases.
I got PX lifters off of SAC. Planned on putting them on the B2's and the brakes are too narrow anyway.

Don't take this the wrong way....but DIN 11. What are your stats?
post #21 of 26

scratch 110

let me know if/when you want to dump these

thanks...........nfp158
post #22 of 26
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Originally Posted by Deemo View Post
I got PX lifters off of SAC. Planned on putting them on the B2's and the brakes are too narrow anyway.

Don't take this the wrong way....but DIN 11. What are your stats?
last year 5'11 165lb, VERY aggresive but pretty smooth

just find some widebrakes

o
post #23 of 26
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Originally Posted by Deemo View Post
Don't take this the wrong way....but DIN 11. What are your stats?
I'm 5'8" 140-145 and ski with 9's on the toes and 10 on the heels.

And I've come out of them...
post #24 of 26
I personally don't ski at very high DIN settings, normally 8 -9. I don't pre-release and I'm no lightweight. I do find that higher DIN bindings are better built and more solid on the ski than lower level bindings. The standard for a flexible binding is the Marker 1100. I think Dawson found a Fritschi Freeride was stiffer than that binding, and that says volumes to me. On the other hand, I have used Volkl and Nordica system bindings by Marker at 12 din with no problem.

Be careful with this stuff because there are some who will correlate the voracity of your manhood by the size of your skis and strength of your bindings. :
post #25 of 26
My own take (besides agreeing with Cirque about manhood/DIN assumptions here) is that people tend to overlook elasticity and release design. A Look/Rossi binding can be skied at a lower DIN than many because the long travel spring really soaks up forces that would trigger release in other brands. So 7 or 8 for your weight should work fine.

Conversely, most Markers tend to have less elasticity, toes release abruptly when load is reached. Not a bad thing if you have funky knees, but otherwise go for a heavier model with higher DIN and set it a bit higher, say 8 to 9. More generally, I'd argue it's better to buy a model that has a fairly heavy spring and set it light - so more room to compress - than the reverse - crank down a light spring. Which means don't put a cheap light binding on your sweet new Goats!

Also IMO, unless you ski crud like it's a SG course, take serious air, or like places where losing a ski could be far worse than tearing a ligament, I do not see the point of someone your size having DIN's above 9.

Elasticity's most relevant for bumps, taking air, or gates, may actually be a problem for twisting falls over restrained skis in powder. So with a Goat, you might want to think about other issues like range of toe/heel release (Tyrolia/Fischer/Head rule, old Look/Rossi Axials not bad) or getting back in on the steep and deep (Marker makes a heel that supposedly requires only a very light downforce, but the only binding I know that can be easily put on without stepping down is the old Marker RR. If they made wide brakes for it, the higher DIN Ti version, all metal, would have been the best serious alpine powder binding in the world...unclear why they didn't. )
post #26 of 26
Thread Starter 
Thanks Beyond for taking time for that excellent explanation.
You sure know your stuff.
I never thought about different DINs for different manufacturers.
The whole DIn issue seems a tired unresolved topic based on other threads I have read.

The Goats were mainly bought for powder days and chop.
No park for me.

They showed up yesterday and it is taking a bit of getting used to the width.....never had ones like it before.

Man they look like fence planks:

Can't wait to try them though.
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