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post #31 of 51
FWIW and Your scales may vary.......from what I had handy.

Model Size/Lbs oz (per pair)

B Squad 174/9.6
B Squad189/10.10
Quad 100 184/9.4
LP 186/10.0
Gotama 190/9.7
Pimp 192/9.14
JP vs. Julian 188/8.7
Enforcer 185/9.8
Hellbent 179/ 11.0
Katana 190/10.0
Coomba 188/9.0

SJ
post #32 of 51
The Maggots have been weighing skis for some time now. One of the biggest sources of ski weights were in grams per 100 cm of ski length. This made skis comparable among different sizes, but introduces some inaccuracies. Its also possible some of the weights in the current spreadsheet are in grams per 100 cm instead of total weight per ski. And, ski weight is a big deal when hiking and skinning.
post #33 of 51
Soooo.....does one need a slide rule and a magic decoder ring to make sense of that??

SJ
post #34 of 51
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
The Maggots have been weighing skis for some time now. One of the biggest sources of ski weights were in grams per 100 cm of ski length. This made skis comparable among different sizes, but introduces some inaccuracies. Its also possible some of the weights in the current spreadsheet are in grams per 100 cm instead of total weight per ski. And, ski weight is a big deal when hiking and skinning.
Agreed Cirque. But does 5 or 6 ozs. make THAT much difference really?

If you can't make it to the top of the peak carrying an extra 5 ozs. ya better get a little more exercize in the Summer. (not you personally)

I think Heluva makes the most sense here.:
post #35 of 51
As far as hiking goes, weight doesn't factor in that much at least as far as I'm concerned. For most of the tours I do (which admittedly are fairly short, like the upper LCC area surrounding Alta) I still use my alpine boots and even Trekkers from time to time even though I have a dedicated AT setup. All that alpine stuff is heavier, but there is a noticable difference on the downhill, and that's really why I go BC in the first place - for the downhill part. Light equiptment and boots that are comfortable to walk in for extended periods are great for longer tours, but for relatively short stuff where you're going to be either going straight up or straight down, I'd rather take heavier more alpine-oriented equipment.
post #36 of 51
see if your local shop will let you take some of the skis down to the supermarket and use the produce scales.
post #37 of 51
5 or 6 oz's might not be a big difference, but how about this comparison - My pair of K2 burnin luv's weigh less than 12 lbs with Salomon Axe Ti bindings. With the integrated Marker bindings they would weigh 16 lbs. Over a four pound difference! That plays a huge role when carrying gear, skating the flats, or sitting on chairs without foot rests. In comparison, my old Volants weighed 11 lbs with their Look bindings.
post #38 of 51
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Originally Posted by Lars View Post
Skis and bindings weigh absolutely nothing when you're standing or skiing on them. heluva is right.

Another point, if 8 ounces makes much difference to your performance of so called swing weight, or in air corrections, you must be in poor physical coindition.

Tip deflection and chatter is caused mostly by poor technique not related to ski and binding weight.

Weight only counts on the trip from the car to the lift, and while on the lifts and maybe for the jibbers who do mid air tricks, flips and such.

weight is bunk.
ROFL..........SOOOO IGNORANT!!!!
post #39 of 51
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ROFL..........SOOOO IGNORANT!!!!
A mature response indeed... : Fortunately, most of the time the only person who you appear cognizant to is yourself.
post #40 of 51
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ROFL..........SOOOO IGNORANT!!!!
This is the best pot-calling -the-kettle-black moment EVAR!
post #41 of 51
Thread Starter 
Here is an updated list, cleaned of errors from some weights being for pairs, includes some measurements I've found on AT skis, Sierra Jim's list converted to metric for one ski, and some double measurements from different sources that suggest variation within a single model length. More to come!

Ski Model wt/one ski

4Frnt EHP, 190 2239g
4Frnt EHP, 193 2509g
Armada JP vs. Julian, 188 1973g
Atomic Pimp, 192 2073g
Atomic Big Daddy, 190 2301g
Atomic Thug, 193 2414g
BD Havoc, 173 3750 g
BD Havoc, 175 1450g
BD Verdict, 170 1730g
BD Verdict, 180 1899g
BD Verdict, 190 2000g
BD Kilowatt, 175 1800g
BD Voodoo, 175 1644g
BD Machine, 174 1701g
BD Stigma, 174 1502g
BD Stigma, 182 1611g
Blizzard Titan Pro, 192 2387g
PMGear Bro (soft), 188 1800g
DP Lotus 120, 190 1811 g
DP Lotus 138, 192 2040 g
DP Wailer 105, 188 1420 g
DP Wailer 95, 188 1400 g
Dynastar Pro Rider 186 2268g
Dynastar Pro Rider, 186 2305g
Dynastar Pro Rider, 194 2580g
Dynastar Pro XXL, 194 2540g
Dynastar Pro XXL 194 2570g
Fisher Watea 101, 192 2331g
G3 Rapid Transit, 178 1814g
Goode Carbon 116, 183 1560g
Goode Carbon 95, 172 2230 g
Head Mojo 105, 191 2381g
Head Monster 103, 193 2850 g
K2 Apache Chief, 181 2282g
K2 Coomba 188 2041 g
K2 Made'n AK, 179 2277g
K2 Suksan, 174 1574g
K2 Sahale, 160 1100g
Movement Goliath, 191 2365g
Nordica Blower, 185 2332g
Nordica Enforcer, 185 2223g
Nordica Hellbent, 179 2495g
Rossi B-Squad, 184 2243g
Rossi B Squad, 174 2177g
Rossi B Squad, 189 2292g
Rossi Quad 100, 184 2132g
Rossi Scratch FS, 167 1650g
Rossignol B4, 178 2000g
Scott P3, 178 1734g
Volkl Gotama, 190 2225g
Volkl Gotama, 190 2200g
Volkl Karma, 177 1747g
Volkl Katana, 190 2268g
Volkl T Rock, 180 16129
post #42 of 51
Thread Starter 
Incidentally, the biggest difference I've seen between skis of roughly the same length and width is between the Black Diamond Verdict 190 and the Head Supermojo 191. The Head is 1.67 lbs heavier per pair. Don't have the time right now to calculate how many calories/hr that translates to.
post #43 of 51
I can go weigh the new Outlaws I got, I guess, they're still in their shrink wrap...
post #44 of 51
K2 Apache Outlaw (05/06) 167 cm/2040 grams
post #45 of 51

Necro-bump for weights.  Saw this and thought it useful:

 

http://www.evo.com/ski-weight-chart-for-alpine-backcountry-skis.aspx#2014

post #46 of 51

I was taking a wait and see approach

post #47 of 51
post #48 of 51
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

Thus I'm going to try to get plenty of AT/Tele ski weights.

 

 

What's a 'tele' ski? :)  

post #49 of 51
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by beyond View Post

Thus I'm going to try to get plenty of AT/Tele ski weights.

 

 

What's a 'tele' ski? :)  


Skis from Telemark?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5y-A3LFSS0

Tele skiing at 1:20

post #50 of 51
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post
 

 

 

What's a 'tele' ski? :)  

 

Uh, a ski that's used primarily for telemark skiing, with telemark bindings?

 

Yep, I know that nowadays, many folks like to slap telemark bindings on alpine stuff. But I also know that there are a lot of Eurotrash and a few weirdos on this side that seem to think telemark skiing should be done on gear from places like this: http://www.genuineguidegear.com/gear/bindings Go figure...

post #51 of 51
Beyond, you know that I've teley'd/taught teley/still can if asked a ton, no? wink.gif

(My avatar... And below, broken heel pieces as well. smile.gif )


Edited by markojp - 7/9/14 at 9:18pm
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