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Does it matter what skis you have if you don't go?

post #1 of 27
Thread Starter 
I happen to know a certain guy with ... let's just say he has a gear acquisition issue. Not that he can't get enough gear but he can't get enough gear to actually ski and use. He'll wax them, do the edges, hotbox them, store them, talk about them, spend all his time looking for them on eBay and then finding a seller. He actually got shut off by the owner of a local store last year he frequents when he spotted another pair of skis he was interested in. But actually skiing, he just doesn't have the time (or the money for lift tickets).

Is this an issue - I mean if you buy/sell 5 skis without skiing them in a year does it matter in the long run or should I just butt out and mind my own business? Is it OK to sell something before you physically take possession? More importantly is there a 12 step program to cure this disorder and should I plan an intervention?

Thanks for any help on this
post #2 of 27
Well, on the one hand if he's OK with it, what's the problem?

On the other hand...he's probably one of the people who moan about 'how expensive skiing is'. Tell him to stop buying crap he doesn't need and get out there and enjoy the fresh air, it'll help with his pasty complexion.
post #3 of 27
Last time I confide in you.
post #4 of 27
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Originally Posted by ct55 View Post
More importantly is there a 12 step program to cure this disorder and should I plan an intervention?

Thanks for any help on this
There's a guaranteed one step plan to either stop, or drastically curtail this disorder, stay off the internet. I was fine until I got a home connection again, now I'm falling victim to it again. : Breaking news to be posted later. :::
post #5 of 27
OK, it's time I got this off my chest: I tend to black out and wake up hours later in a strange website. Staring at a purchase confirmation. My solution so far has been to write my billing address and credit card number on my wrist in case I'm lost. But the UPS guy is starting to ask questions. What should I do? :
post #6 of 27
Who is this guy? Maybe we can get a good sale on some new skis cheap.
post #7 of 27

stuff

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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
There's a guaranteed one step plan to either stop, or drastically curtail this disorder, stay off the internet. I was fine until I got a home connection again, now I'm falling victim to it again. : Breaking news to be posted later. :::
So true!

Ebay is a nasty thing!

Gear magazines aren't far behind....I cancelled Popular Photography, Guitar Player, Stereo Review, Ski, Snow country, Powder, Skiing, Golf, Golf Digest and Tennis magazines over the years because they made me want stuff I didn't need.

I like stuff:

Epic ski is not good either.....4gea and tennis forum are also very bad....

I keep telling myself I have everything I need....last month I had a day off and bought 4 tennis racquets on ebay....yesterday I found a set of golf clubs I had to have even tho I have 4 sets now(and none of my stuff is junk, all top of the line stuff)

must stop, oh well at least it's not car and driver and motor trend
post #8 of 27
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
There's a guaranteed one step plan to either stop, or drastically curtail this disorder, stay off the internet. I was fine until I got a home connection again, now I'm falling victim to it again. : Breaking news to be posted later. :::
My guess:



VA is such a man, it takes 3 skis to float his boat!

But this thread is about gear addicts that don't ski, not the 100+ day/year guys like you :
post #9 of 27
that's freaking crazy.

why would you be addicted to buying gear that you never use?

i spend tons of money on stuff i don't need, per se, but it's always something that i end up using (DVDs, CDs, comic books, regular books, clothes). I don't play tennis or golf and i am happy to say that i have never purchased golf clubs or tennis rackets just for the sake of purchasing something.

is this person just a compulsive buyer of anything and everything? I mean do they purchase stuff other than skis?

are they trying to establish themselves as an online sports exchange/shop?

i think it's great that the local shop shut them down. Obviously they could continue to make easy money off this person's affliction, but chose to take the high road and intervene. Good on them! sounds like a shop i'd be into supporting with my $$.

i think the earlier advice was spot on: said addict needs to go out and ski. maybe he/she will find out that they hate skiing and stop buying equipment or maybe they will find out they love skiing and will start using what they've bought.
post #10 of 27
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More importantly is there a 12 step program to cure this disorder and should I plan an intervention?
CT55, you are so missing the boat on this one, I can not help but reply. Let me share with you a different scenario and you tell me what advice you would give. Let's say that a single guy tells you that he has this female friend who is a supermodel and a nymphomaniac. He asks you what you think he should do. What would you tell him? Would you tell him to try an intervention and find a 12 step program to cure her of her disorder?:

Of course not!

Think about it: You ski , he is obsessed with tuning skis. What's the problem? Bring him your skis before the snow falls, let him hotbox them, tune them, and wax them. Then maybe buy him a lift ticket and take him skiing with you. (I mean, you would tell the single guy to buy the supermodel dinner, wouldn't you?)
post #11 of 27
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But the UPS guy is starting to ask questions. What should I do? :
My UPS driver definitely thinks I'm a freak. I'm pretty sure I'm the only person in the building who receives weird packages from the Internets every other day. One day when he was delivering the third LCD in a week he asked me if I built computers for people. Ermm, no, I just like to run SolidWorks and watch pr0n at the same time.

I'm now into the second year of my ski-gear freeze...still staying pretty strong.
post #12 of 27
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
My guess:



VA is such a man, it takes 3 skis to float his boat!

But this thread is about gear addicts that don't ski, not the 100+ day/year guys like you :
I am most certainly not currently negotiating to purchase three mounted Spatulas.
post #13 of 27
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I am most certainly not currently negotiating to purchase three mounted Spatulas.
I'm wrong? :

That's never happened before.
post #14 of 27
VA: you KNOW you need some Spats...no Volant Addict is truly a Volant Addict unless they're spreading butter with Spatulas.

On anothe note, perhaps I'm stating the obvious here (I tend to be very adept at this), but what if the OP is actually the person he/she's talking about? Would make sense...gear addicted non-skier stumbles upon message board populated by gear addicted hardcore skiers and then asks if it's okay to have such a gear obsession.

most of us would say "Sure!" with the caveat being that you need to use the gear that you buy. I think the very same group of most of us would say that it's insane to spend all your time and money purchasing things you never ever expect to use (unless of course you are stockpiling holiday gifts).
post #15 of 27
Thread Starter 
I promised not to reveal his true identity but his initials are xxxxxx

Whoops

ps - anyway, the purpose of all this is to get him to ski this year more and maybe do a western trip. So hopefully it works ...
post #16 of 27
If he's trading equipment and making money at it, good for him. Just tell him to use some of the spoils to get out there!!
post #17 of 27
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
VA: you KNOW you need some Spats...no Volant Addict is truly a Volant Addict unless they're spreading butter with Spatulas.
Well my good man, I'm the one and only volantaddict, and am the originator of the term, so it seems you are very wrong , I would however, love to add some Spats to my quiver. The right moment and deal has yet to come though.
post #18 of 27
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Originally Posted by ct55 View Post
More importantly is there a 12 step program to cure this disorder and should I plan an intervention?
Jokes aside, there is indeed: Debtors Anonymous, whose members include compulsive shoppers (among many other stripes of people with $$$ management issues). I had a Scottish friend who actually had this problem. It was really messing up his life. It was all about the shopping "buzz," and using the objects he bought was totally beside the point. He wasn't ever "cured," but at last check he had overcome the worst excesses of the thing through Debtors Anonymous. Sorry for the all serious public service announcement ... back to the irony now, folks!
post #19 of 27
Thread Starter 
yeah I didn't mean to get all serious ... anyway, just teasing my buddy - you know who you are!
post #20 of 27

Good harmless fun

OK. I buy my fair share of stuff off the internet. Ski gear and otherwise. Some EBAY and other sources as well. I like to research it and then find a deal. Sometimes I just buy it without getting a deal. It depends. Then I try it out and if it works I keep it. If not, I sell it to somebody else. Through this process I have gradually assembled a complete set of ski gear that I really like, that suits me well, and that makes the sport even more fun for me. Everything from underwear to skis to boots to helmets to goggles to gloves to jackets etc. etc. etc. You guys all know that different gear is different. So how do you know what works until you try it? Sure it costs a lot in time and money. But I had/have fun doing it and as a result I now have good stuff and I ski better. Its like a hobby.

My family refers to me as 'Uncle Gear Slut'. Presumably in a loveable way. OK, my brother-in-law is a little pissed off because his wife who is, of course, my sister now has a full array of really, really good stuff that really works for her and it turns out that arriving at this very happy state of affairs can be a tad expensive. But if the stubborn SOB would just listen to me and dump those totally worn out 16 year-old Langes for something modern he would understand . . .

Live is short. So buy more gear!! Yeeha!!!!!
post #21 of 27
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Originally Posted by The Hammer View Post
OK. I buy my fair share of stuff off the internet. Ski gear and otherwise. Some EBAY and other sources as well. I like to research it and then find a deal. Sometimes I just buy it without getting a deal. It depends. Then I try it out and if it works I keep it. If not, I sell it to somebody else. Through this process I have gradually assembled a complete set of ski gear that I really like, that suits me well, and that makes the sport even more fun for me. Everything from underwear to skis to boots to helmets to goggles to gloves to jackets etc. etc. etc. You guys all know that different gear is different. So how do you know what works until you try it? Sure it costs a lot in time and money. But I had/have fun doing it and as a result I now have good stuff and I ski better. Its like a hobby.

My family refers to me as 'Uncle Gear Slut'. Presumably in a loveable way. OK, my brother-in-law is a little pissed off because his wife who is, of course, my sister now has a full array of really, really good stuff that really works for her and it turns out that arriving at this very happy state of affairs can be a tad expensive. But if the stubborn SOB would just listen to me and dump those totally worn out 16 year-old Langes for something modern he would understand . . .

Live is short. So buy more gear!! Yeeha!!!!!
That's great!

Whenever the gear purchasing and hoarding gets overdone, I start selling the old stuff. I try to sell in October & November and buy from March to August. Yin & Yang.



Its a little like diet and exercise, they work best in balance.

Michael
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post #22 of 27
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Originally Posted by medmarkco View Post
If he's trading equipment and making money at it, good for him. Just tell him to use some of the spoils to get out there!!

This is a critical point, not to be confused with any manor of illness - ie. a shopaholic. Actually, I gotta' say there is some vicarious fulfillment in browsing the internet looking at gear especially when you work those 70 hr weeks and simply cannot get out like the 100+ day folks. Eventually you get out for that weekend or vacation and all that pent up interest releases like a coiled spring. I gotta' say too that I was surprised (most positively), to find this forum of so many dedicated hard core skiers and knowledgeable ski gear buffs in the 100 degree heat of mid summer.
Vicarious shared anticipation perhaps.
post #23 of 27
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
Well my good man, I'm the one and only volantaddict, and am the originator of the term, so it seems you are very wrong , I would however, love to add some Spats to my quiver. The right moment and deal has yet to come though.
The stars are seemingly aligned. Got something to tell us ?

it's time to share with the group.Stand up VA


Hi I'm a volantaddict and I have............................................
post #24 of 27
Thread Starter 
I think we've already established that previously - I mean it's in his name for cryin out loud.

Nothing wrong with that - love those skis when I was skiing em
post #25 of 27
Yes, it really does matter.

I have actually never skied in my entire life. In fact, I live in Houston and have never even seen snow.

I do buy lots of big burly big mountain skis just so I can post pictures of my quiver on the internet and people I've never met will think I'm really good or something, and maybe somehow it will make a girl like me.

That makes me happy.
post #26 of 27
sry dude but I got to post this

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=96538

how much you pay?
post #27 of 27
I have no idea WHAT you are talking about! That chap there, who bears no resemblance to me in any way, has obviously purchased himself a fine pair of Volants, but until he actually gets his hands on them, I doubt he'll be crowing all that much.
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