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post #31 of 55
Passed my CSCF L1 last week. I'm going to work towards (and hopefully pass) my CSIA and CSCF L2s next season. :
post #32 of 55
I was supposed to take my CSCF L3 this season, but I got injured. Now, I'm not sure it was that fine of an idea (since I might very well fail it, the course is getting harder and harder with each passing season): it's not needed for my job, but would it be sweet for the ego to have it . There's no question that if I had taken it two years ago, I would've had a fighting chance, but maybe not anymore with the increased focus on ski.

I'm taking the CSIA L3 next year for sure (and crushing it ). Since my girlfriend will be off to Africa to teach for 4 months next winter, I'm looking forward to teaching a few hours *everyday* and coach *every* weekend (the joy of completing a master's degree). I'll probably also take a speed camp to finally get my certified SCSF L2. I'll get my examiner in two years and maybe the CSIA L4 afterwards.

I'm shooting for 100+ days on snow next year. Probably will be the last year I'll be able to do that before entering (pretty late...) adult life.
post #33 of 55
Passed PSIA level 1 alpine in march
post #34 of 55
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Passed my CSCF L1 last week. I'm going to work towards (and hopefully pass) my CSIA and CSCF L2s next season.
Careful, the CSCF L2 can be a bitch to pass if you don't set a lot of courses (safety first!) and meaningful race experience is expected, if not necessary. They're not looking for Bode Miller's, but for fast, efficient skiers who can set, officiate and coach kids aged 10 to 15.

I'd be wary to take the course if I had never coached racers before (assuming you haven't, since you're from the UK).
post #35 of 55
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Originally Posted by mattchuck2 View Post
Level III . . . Part II . . . Probably at Whiteface at the end of March
I passed it . . .

Also passed level II tele . . .

Next year, Tele Level III
post #36 of 55
LII modules this weekend
post #37 of 55
BillyRay, ah, you see, that's where my cunning plan comes into play. Take it at the end of the season after I've (hopefully) done a year of coaching in Canada. Even if I don't pass it though, I'll have developed and improved my skiing on the course (will probably head over to Andorra and do the extended course).

Also, as my L1 was done over 6 instead of 3 days, the course conductor (Chris Hillier) included a lot of introctory stuff about the content of the L2.
post #38 of 55
Passed Level II, Now the fun starts? Level III training started the next day!
post #39 of 55
passed the teaching , skiing , hopefully next year.
post #40 of 55
Passed my Level III last month! . Now I'm ready to "Rock-n-Roll"! Waa Hooo!

~Anne~
post #41 of 55
Just passed my CSIA Level III, just needed to be re-tested on my teaching since I passed my skiing last year. Got some good feedback with my skiing too and was told that I am not far from Level IV, so that's going to be my focus for some time in the next couple of years. First course though will be CSCF L2 whenever I'm available.
post #42 of 55
Thread Starter 
Congrats to all those who've acomplished something or passed a course - looks like we've had a good load this season, and quite a few of those being level 3 type courses.

I'm happy to report that I got my level 2 CSCF in February. Looking ahead to next season, hopefully I'll have an opportunity to be a rookie level I CSIA course conductor. I took the course this year, but didn't get a chance to work on any courses.
Also being nudged strongly towards starting down the (long) road to a level 4. Not sure if I'll take the course, but at the very least I'll take the GS module that's a pre-requisite.

BillyRay, sounds like you've got quite an ambitious plan for the next few years, I like it. Have you done any of the NCCP modules for the CSCF L3? I've heard they can be a lot of work. They're certainly making it a lot more work than it used to be it seems (makes me envious of my friend who got it the last year before they switched it to the Trained/Certified pathway system - he could have passed it easily in any incarnation, but saved himself a lot of (needless?) effort getting it done then).
Long term the CSCF pathway system definitely seems to spit out better coaches, but I think it's at the cost of being a bit less accessible for the part-time weekend type coaches that many clubs thrive on (and are the most in need of improved training in many cases).

Once again, congrats to everyone who passed courses or participated in one. Even if you weren't successful, go ahead and post your experiences, I'm sure there are lots of aspiring instructors/coaches who would love to hear some experiences, both good and bad. Everyone can learn from a review of what to do again and what to improve upon.
post #43 of 55
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Originally Posted by CanuckInstructor View Post
I'm happy to report that I got my level 2 CSCF in February. Looking ahead to next season, hopefully I'll have an opportunity to be a rookie level I CSIA course conductor. I took the course this year, but didn't get a chance to work on any courses.
Also being nudged strongly towards starting down the (long) road to a level 4. Not sure if I'll take the course, but at the very least I'll take the GS module that's a pre-requisite.
If you had good results from the CSCF2 course, have you given any thought to the CSCF3 (PL) training? The PL training alone is not currently designated as an official CSIA4 prerequisite, but if you're working on a multi-year development plan, it's a great course to take.
post #44 of 55
Thread Starter 
It's something I've thought about doing, but it's more in the pipe dream stage at the moment than anything serious. Many years off most likely. My gate skiing really isn't anywhere near what it would need to be for me to think about it. Level 4 is probably my next step, and further on, depending how that and my non-skiing life goes, the performance level stuff is certainly something I'd like to get into, but at the moment it's not really a practicality.
post #45 of 55
as my first season ever in PSIA... i passed my Level 1 Telemark last month and passed my Level 2 Telemark this month. my skiing is close to Level 3, but i feel my MA is a little week. so next year i have my work cut out for me on my way to Level 3!!!
post #46 of 55
Thread Starter 
Seems about the right time for some thread necromancy here.

Who has certification/training plans for this season? Hopes? Pipe dreams?

Personally it's likely to be a light year in terms of formal courses for me. There will of course be plenty of ongoing training, but my hope of taking the CSIA 4 course (not exams) has been waylaid for another year, since both eastern options aren't really compatible with my schedule (barring some serious generosity from some of my profs). I'll still be working towards that on my own and with peers and trainers, but there's no substitute for going on course to really see where I stand.

My other goal is to "rookie" conduct a level 1. I took the course conductor training, but didn't get an opportunity to actually work on a course, so I'm hoping to do that this season, but again constrained by school schedules.

I'd love to hear what everyone else is considering!
post #47 of 55
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Originally Posted by CanuckInstructor View Post
My other goal is to "rookie" conduct a level 1. I took the course conductor training, but didn't get an opportunity to actually work on a course, so I'm hoping to do that this season, but again constrained by school schedules.
The L1CC training and L1 course delivery provide some good background for people working towards L4. It sometimes takes a couple of years to get to work on a course, depending on schedules, returning course conductors, etc. It's always good training, and you do have to attend L1CC training in the current year to be able to work L1 courses. I haven't done courses for a few years, but I always try to do the L1CC training to stay up to date (this season's indoor session is coming up this weekend actually).
post #48 of 55
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I'll be at Dagmar for the indoor this Sunday. Looking forward to it. I've got a full weekend of ski related activities to get me pumped up for snow - Saturday I've got the annual ski school meeting (tedious, but good to catch up with everyone) and getting some new boots fitted (yay).

How about you mogul? IIRC, you're working towards your performance level coach? How's the pathway going so far?
post #49 of 55
Past my CSCF I and II last year.

Doing CSIA II and CSCF III this winter if everything goes according to plan...

Damn them for making it so complicated though!
post #50 of 55
Complicated? You should see the ridiculous hoops that BASI make people go through... I have to worry about people that choose their system. Rather than providing a course that covers the necessary content, they run three or four shorter ones that add up to the necessary content. Great way of making money though...

Anyway, as for me...

I shall be having a go at CSIA II this winter. I'm considering the extended course they run in Andorra over twelve days rather than five. After taking CSCF I last year over six rather than three, it is certainly something I reckon is worth a bit of extra money.

I'd hoped to go for CSCF II as well, but as I'm not in a position to coach much this season it would probably not be within my grasp currently.
post #51 of 55
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Originally Posted by Kneale Brownson View Post
We're starting to see a senior's accreditation.
PSIA-NW and my local ski area are big into the senior accreditation, but they don't give credit for time served to us graybeards. The program has something for younger instructors to relate to teaching gram & gramps, but I'm there.... Also, at my area seniors are not a part of our student market. Also, there really isn't much in the senior cert program that couldn't be covered in a couple of hours, not two days. The childrens cert program is said to be very good and highly recommended for those who like kids.

In this division, all the training and cert testing for L-II or L-III totals $615!
post #52 of 55
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Originally Posted by SoftSnowGuy View Post
PSIA-NW and my local ski area are big into the senior accreditation, but they don't give credit for time served to us graybeards. The program has something for younger instructors to relate to teaching gram & gramps, but I'm there.... Also, at my area seniors are not a part of our student market. Also, there really isn't much in the senior cert program that couldn't be covered in a couple of hours, not two days. The childrens cert program is said to be very good and highly recommended for those who like kids.

In this division, all the training and cert testing for L-II or L-III totals $615!
I took my Children's Specialist II Accreditation a few years ago, and I will be taking my Senior Specialist II Accreditation this March. I highly recommend that all instructors take both, no matter what age they regularly teach. People are people. In my Children's Specialist, I learned "great stuff" that I use everyday in my adult lessons. The focus was on "Core Concepts", the foundation of the learning experience, the connections between the student and the teacher...more about building relationships and communication rather than technique and the technical side of skiing.

A few years ago I also took my USSA Coaching Level 100. I learned a "ton"...I highly recommend that instructors take coaching clinics/exams as well. Go to ussa.org for USSA coaching education opportunities and information.
post #53 of 55
I'm working on PSIA-E Master Teacher this year. Its going to be a pull but the learning is great. I've already taken four courses this year.
post #54 of 55
This year I'm planning on attacking my PSIA III (finished the II last year). I'm also, no doubt to skisimon's horror, continuing working towards my BASI ISIA - mainly because, unlike the PSIA one, it's recognised in Europe. The plan is to hit Zermatt in April and do the Mountain Safety course (six days), Technical Skiing resit (five days) and Teaching (five days).

If I pass them all (and I stress "if") that will only leave me the second discipline element ... I'll try to decide this season whether I'm going to focus on learning telemark or snowboarding or do the adaptive skiing module.

Skisimon's right about the cost, mind. If I take the full BASI package in April (ie course, accommodation, board and lift pass) the cost will be £2,300 not including travel and random spending (ie beer). As I've already done four weeks of courses (passing two, failing one) with at least one more after that you can do the sums ...
post #55 of 55
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Originally Posted by Sandgroper61 View Post
I'm also, no doubt to skisimon's horror, continuing working towards my BASI ISIA - mainly because, unlike the PSIA one, it's recognised in Europe.

BASI certainly has some advantages over PSIA when it comes to getting work back in Europe. Which is why I chose CSIA, although all the equivalencies have changed this season (as I understand it) and a couple of extra requirements have been added (I think).
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