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post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
Anyone here into endurance mountain bike races? 24 hour events? 50 & 100 mile mountain bike races? 12 hour races?

Entered my first 24 hr race as a team with a group of friends last month and see it as something I could really get into.

This weekend I'm racing solo in an 8 hour race as my first foray into solo endurance racing. On a singlespeed. :

anyone else?
post #2 of 28
I don't know how into it I am...I've done 3, 24 hour races. The 24 Hours of Snowshoe (WV) twice, and the 24 Hours of Adrenaline at Conyers, GA once. I also did a 12 hour race, solo at ACE outside Oak Hill, WV. I pretty regularly do XC races in the WVMBA series. Mostly in the 26 mile range. They do have the XXC races (100 mile)this year also. I haven't done any XXC yet.

I have 3 MTB's a Gary Fisher Cake, Schwinn Rocket 88, and a Specialized Rockhopper (Ritchey Nitanium tubing). They are all spec'd out with XT, XTR, X-9, and XO drivetrain goodies. Sorry no singlespeeds. I'm open to harassment about that. Just be wary, I'm OK with the dishout.

I'm selling the Schwinn this weekend. I'm meeting the guy at this race.
http://www.iplayoutside.com/iplay/Ev.../10/10488.html
I know Joey. He was really going for it in the Championship race. He's had quite a few injuries, that me and another PT friend of mine have rehab'd him through. Oh yeah Joey is a big single speeder, I think he still rides for Vicious cycles. He has won, not just the singlespeed class but the whole race on a fixed gear!

I'm planning on buying a Trek EX 9 in the spring. I'm open to doing another 24 hour race. The Epic 24 hour team?
post #3 of 28
Thread Starter 
Very cool.

When I lived back in the Philly (7 years ago)area i had some friends who were always trying to get me to into the Snowshoe 24 hr races, but I wasn't into mountain biking that much then.

i'm using this 8-hour solo as kind of a gauge to learn more about what's needed to compete at these things. for this race, i just want to survive, have some fun, and not come in dead last and hopefully use it as a learning experience for some other stuff i'm eyeballing come springtime. Plus it's a great way to get into shape for ski season around the corner

i was looking at the results of last years race and the top singlespeed guy cranked out like 9 laps in 7 hrs 30-something minutes. Which roughly calculates out to just under 90 miles and nearly 9,000 feet of climbing. i just hope he doesn't lap me too many times

And the only reason i'm singlespeeding in this event is because i kind of half to. I have two mountain bikes. One is the singlespeed (a Santa Cruz Chameleon) and the other is my 45 lb downhill bike. An 8 hr race on the 45-pounder (Knolly V-Tach) would be quite interesting
post #4 of 28
I wish I had more time this year I would totally be down if someone wanted me on a team .

24 hours of moab next year? I cna ride about 50 miles pretty comfortable and casually I imagine a 24 hour race where i was pushing myself I could do better.
post #5 of 28
I'd do a 24-hour race. I used to race a lot of XC (and DH too, but that's a different story). My best races were the longer ones. There was a 35 mile Enduro in Rhode Island that I liked, and a 50-miler in VT. That's a long race.
post #6 of 28
Thread Starter 
www.ride424.com usually has the most complete calender for endurance mountain bike races.

There's only a handful of 2008 events there, but they should be updating it a ton as November and December gets closer.

There's going to be an inaugural 100-miler in the Tahoe-Sierra region next September. I'm going to keep my eye on that one.
post #7 of 28
Tyrone why don't you sign up for this one? http://www.transiowa.blogspot.com/

Let us know how it goes....
post #8 of 28
I have done 24 hour races, but I think it not my cup of tea. I liked the excitement, the friendship with team members, and the event itself. However, in the end, I'd rather be somewhere far away from things with great scenery and few people (other than my friends). There are some rides where we do not see anyone over 5 or 6 hours of riding. That is what I love.

For an endurance race check out the TransRockies Challange:

http://www.transrockies.com/transrockies/index.html
post #9 of 28
Seriously, you people are nuts!
post #10 of 28
bro i'm into the endurance deal 24 hrs of moab 24 hours of gunnison montezuma's revenge leadville 100 lots of brevets looking forward to qualifying for the 2011 pbp

i dig it

i was infected many a years ago when i rode the white rim trail on a rigid in a day i found my calling

imho 24 racing is as much about getting the logistics "right" if not more than actually riding fast on every lap the logistics can be tricky food mechanical sleep its all about keeping the boogey man at bay cause everyone is gonna feel the blues a tiny little bit in an endurance event so the logistics not getting ugly really help the spirit stay high
post #11 of 28
For those of you who haven't done a 24 hour race: Its much different than going out for say, a 50 mile ride. If you race on a team its more like a 24 hour interval workout. You ride a lap or two depending on your strategy, then you cool down. During the cool down you have to stay flexible, hydrated, fed, rest and make sure your ride is ready to go. After a while it becomes hard to eat. I've had to force myself to eat before. (this typically isn't any problem for me)

Also you need good lights for the night laps. I have one of these and plan on getting another. http://www.dinottelighting.com/ProductLines.htm Riding at night is much different than in daylight. Trails you think you know become foreign territory. Also you should have plenty of back up parts, or another bike. I recommend two pairs of shoes. There is nothing like putting on a pair of wet shoes in the middle of the night for your next lap. I tore the sole off one of my shoes, runnning in the peanut butter mud and playing hop scotch in the slippery roots. Also, even it warm climates it can get quite cool at night. So, at least a long sleeve Jersey in addition to the rest of your gear. I recommend several pairs of shorts and Jersey's. Well, I could go on and on.

I would try 24 hours of Moab, If I could swing it. I'm more into it for the comarderie these days, than to win. That being said, I would want to do well, and have everyone prepared. It would stink in big smelly ways, for me to travel all the way to Moab and come in last.
post #12 of 28
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Originally Posted by Richie-Rich View Post
Seriously, you people are nuts!
I agree.
post #13 of 28
I'm not sure I'd be up for the endurance race, but I'd love to be support team on something like that. I make killer oatmeal cookies for energy!
post #14 of 28
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by eNick View Post
bro i'm into the endurance deal 24 hrs of moab 24 hours of gunnison montezuma's revenge leadville 100 lots of brevets looking forward to qualifying for the 2011 pbp

i dig it

i was infected many a years ago when i rode the white rim trail on a rigid in a day i found my calling

imho 24 racing is as much about getting the logistics "right" if not more than actually riding fast on every lap the logistics can be tricky food mechanical sleep its all about keeping the boogey man at bay cause everyone is gonna feel the blues a tiny little bit in an endurance event so the logistics not getting ugly really help the spirit stay high
ha! dude you are infected! you've done some killer races (i.e. leadville, montezume, etc.)

And I hear you about the 'logistics' thing. That's kind of why I'm looking at this upcoming 8-hour solo for me more as a learning experience than anything else. I've done rides of this length and longer on my road bike (i.e. organized centuries with organized rest stops), but obviously on a mountain bike it's much more difficult, and you are responsible for your own nutrition in a race. Having a plan for nutrition and hydration and having everything organized at my pit area is one thing I've been focusing alot on for this race. Especially considering that I don't feel like I'm in optimal shape for it I need to focus on something I feel I can still control with a few days left to the race!
post #15 of 28
The 2008 24 hours of Moab is about a year off. Thats quite a while to keep this thread going. I plan to keep training. The logistics of the race will be difficult. It would help if we? had a contact locally with a tent, awning, bike stand, etc. I don't know yet, but I might take a vacation and just drive my truck out. Like I said quite a while until the 2008 race, I would like to try it, if things work out. I know a couple 'ringers' also, maybe I could talk someone into it, if we need another rider. Most of the riders that I know that are really good, are broke arses. (Because they ride constantly) We? would have to pick out wnat class, age group, etc.

http://www.grannygear.com/Races/Moab/index.shtml

eNick=Nick Waite?:
post #16 of 28
Team epic next year at Moab?

I am broke to but being so close me being broke makes this alot easier.
post #17 of 28
Thread Starter 
Not sure I can commit to Moab next year. But it sounds like you'd have no problem getting a team together from the folks here anyway!
post #18 of 28
Well, theres always this one for a warm up.

http://www.grannygear.com/Races/Bigbear/index.shtml
post #19 of 28
Thread Starter 
phew! what a fun event.

Really great course that was mostly singletrack and had LOTS of climbing. (10 miles, 1600 vert). Riding a singlespeed with a 32:18T definitely had my walking alot of the steep parts on my later laps (shoulda rocked a 32:20T. And despite 4 minor mechnicals on the first lap, no organization whatsoever with my refueling and no support team (heh), and waiting for Mrs. Shoe to catch up so we could ride our last lap together, still managed to crank out 6 laps for around 64 miles and 9,600 vert of climbing. I think I ended up 6th or 7th or something in my singlespeed class. The winners cranked out 8 or 9 laps!! ::

definitely looking forward to more of these. Learned a lot and definitely can improve with a little more training, and being smarter and more organized in the pits. fun fun stuff. great day
post #20 of 28
bro, you did real good ...great job!!... solo is a different game than team - very different

i tried a warm up lap at gunny's 24 hour last august with a 32X18 and swapped to a :20 for the race 'cause :18 hurt me
post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by eNick View Post
bro, you did real good ...great job!!... solo is a different game than team - very different

i tried a warm up lap at gunny's 24 hour last august with a 32X18 and swapped to a :20 for the race 'cause :18 hurt me
thanks Nick.

I hear ya, if I had a 20 toother in my toolbox I would have slapped it on after the first lap.

Live and learn though right? Despite being totally unorganized in the pits (next time, have support help, or have my fuel/water bottles pre-made, lined up and ready to go), i did learn alot about how much I need to drink/eat/etc. and still maintain performance levels.

And plus...I just figured this was great training for ski season around the corner
post #22 of 28
Just got back from the Race for the Riddles. Man, it was brutal, they changed the course! Very dry and rocky, yesterday. This is a similar course to the 24 Hours of Big Bear. Same location.

2 flat tires. Blown sidewall on tubless and one blown tube. I had to run off the course to a campground, and get a pair of pliers to get my tubeless valve stem out. Blown compression seal on my fork. Chain in the spokes.

Still enough for a prize. Dinner for two.:
post #23 of 28
I do a 50 mile off road race every january... it is a blast....unclassed by age and I really like it.

it takes right at 4 hours or a bit less
post #24 of 28

creampuff--100 miles with 18,000 feet of climbing

Try this one. Not a team event

Course info is yet to be determined but will encompass the Alpine trail region similar to years past. Course details and maps will not be available until May. Estimates are 100 miles with 18,000 feet of climbing and more than 50% singletrack.

http://www.cascadecreampuff.com/
post #25 of 28
JohnnyZoo, how did it go for you at Big Bear this year?

Nordbarbie, are you going to ride that? Sounds like fun .

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Originally Posted by mikebike View Post
I do a 50 mile off road race every january... it is a blast....unclassed by age and I really like it.

it takes right at 4 hours or a bit less
Damn, it took me four hours to ride less than 50 miles on pavement today. I know a guy who does 100 mile races on a single speed and he usually takes a little longer than 10 hours but he did finish in less than ten at least once. Pat "Swampy" Riggins, co-owner and rider for Real Courier. I sometimes do freight for him.
post #26 of 28
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by NordtheBarbarian View Post
Try this one. Not a team event

Course info is yet to be determined but will encompass the Alpine trail region similar to years past. Course details and maps will not be available until May. Estimates are 100 miles with 18,000 feet of climbing and more than 50% singletrack.

http://www.cascadecreampuff.com/
gnarly. not for me this year.

my main event this year will be the Tahoe-Sierra 100 in early September. A 100 mile mountain bike race and plan on doing it solo and on a singlespeed.

I have alot of road and mountain training events leading up to it. One of which was this past Saturday in the Sierra Century (road), which was nearly exactly 100 miles with 10,000 feet of climbing. I was really pleased with how I finished so i'm going to keep to my training regimen. Here's my schedule for the rest of the summer/fall.
  • June 28th - Climb to Kaiser (road) - 155 miles and 14,000 ft of climbing
  • July 7th - Downieville Classic XC (mtn) - 32 miles and 4,000 ft of climbing (singlespeed class)
  • August 2nd - Mt. Tam Double Century (road) - 200 miles and 15,000 ft of climbing
  • August 16th - 12 Hours of Humbolt (mtn) - 12 hour endurance mountain bike race (solo, singlespeed)
  • September 6th - Tahoe-Sierra 100 (mtn) - 100 miles with 11,000 ft of climbing (solo, singlespeed)
  • October 4th - Sublime 6 (mtn) - 6 hour endurance mountain bike race (solo, singlespeed)
  • October 18th - The Quick and the Dead - 6 hour endurance mountain bike race (solo, singlespeed)
Lots of local, mid-week mountain bike racing sprinkled throughout here as well. too many to list, but they're great for building power and working on the anaerobic/sprinting side of things.

hopefully by the end of October I'll be sick of all that and all i'll want to do is do shuttle rides on my downhill bike and get ready for the snow to start falling
post #27 of 28
With a schedule like that, you might as well throw in a Brevet or two and do P-B-P.
post #28 of 28
I got back from Big Bear last night. I took today off to unpack, clean and recover.

We didn't do so great, team was plagued with mechanicals. Derailleur torn off, broken spoke, 2 flat tires, 1 light malfunction. Sent one guy to the hospital. He face planted on a rock. He had to get a bunch of stitches. I couldn't tell how many from all the blood and swelling. I think he cracked his front teeth. Again, hard to tell. His lip was swelled up so much he looked like a duck.

The race was brutal. The heat and humidity were very high. I'd estimate temps form 85-95F during the day. My short sleeve jersey was soaked with sweat, even on my 3AM lap. I did 24 hours of Conyers, 2 years ago, I had to wear long sleeves at night for that race!

The course was wet. It was nearly impossible to ride some of the swampy areas. Racers started ridinging through the bushes at the sides. As the race went on the course dries out somewhat. Some of the racers liked the conditions. Personally, I liked the looser, wetter mud. The mud started to become like peanut butter toward the end of the race. There were a lot of rock gardens at the top and toward the 9-10 mile mark. During daylight I could ride these. At night I had to walk through. I was having visions of face planting in one of those gardens. (this is the same area I did a pile driver and broke my helmet previously this season)

I didn't sleep much. The camp ground was in the middle of an old air strip. Being in my tent was like being in an Easy Bake Oven!

There were a lot, of 29 inch bikes, more than I have seen at any of my previous races. The 29ers outnumbered 26 inch bikes probably more than 2 to 1.

Saw a lot of great racers. Tinker was there. He is amazing, thats about all I can say. He was pulling 13 mile laps at like 1:10 to 1:15 riding solo. My fastest laps were like in the 1:30 range on a 3-4 man team.

Preparation and rest is the name of the 24 hours game. Having everything laid out and ready to go is an advantage. You don't want to be mixing bottles of endurance drink, looking for your socks, or chain lube at 3AM.

I had better get to unpacking.

Anyone for 24 hours of 7 Springs?
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