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What's Next? (The 2-ski East Coast Quiver)

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Building a quiver ... 1 ski at a time

Got some great abuse .. er ... advice on my last ski purchase and I'm back for more!!

Me ... 180 lbs, 5'10", 49 y.o., Level 7-8 skier ... improving. Skis mostly on-piste in the East although I've got a hankerin' to be spending more time in the trees this season.

Current quiver: Fischer RX8, 170 cm
Things it does well: Turn, turn, turn ... stability @ speed .. edge hold ...
Things it doesn't: Crud/Chop ... powder/soft snow ... spring skiing (slush)

According to the prevailing wisdom (gleaned from w-a-y too many hours reading this forum), I should be adding a mid-fat and a soft snow specialist to the quiver ....

BUT, if I can only get 1 more ski this year (else Mrs. OES revokes my season pass), what would be the best choice to give me the most versatility out of a 2-ski quiver?

Happily awaiting your responses ...
post #2 of 22
Rossignol B2 Bandit = full quiver.

Of course, I'm not ski-tech guy, but after demoing zillioins of skis over several years, I finally actually purchased these - very good skis.
post #3 of 22
Elan 888
Snoop Daddy
Nordica SC Ignition
Head 82/88

Let alone the multitude of system skis in the 80-85mm waist range.

175-180
post #4 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Elan 888
Snoop Daddy
Nordica SC Ignition
Head 82/88

Let alone the multitude of system skis in the 80-85mm waist range.

175-180
Phil,

Your recommendation (888, Snoop Daddy) seems more inline with what I think of as east coast fatties .. as opposed to the midfat, all-mountain variety (Magfire, AC4). Like to know your thoughts behind the wider ski as ski #2 ...
post #5 of 22
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Originally Posted by OldEasternSkier View Post
Building a quiver ... 1 ski at a time
You should always buy skis in pairs...
post #6 of 22
The RX-8 will handle most conditions in the East until you get to serious, crud/slop and powder(?where?)--I'd consider the Dynastar Mythic Rider. It is wide enough to cover ANY Eastern powder situation, soft enough for reasonable bumps, reasonably stable in crud, and forgiving enough not to punish a level 7-8. I am considering this ski myself.
post #7 of 22
I have RX8's and scored a pair of Fischer AMC 79's in a 170 that are serving me very well. They are available for cheap and float my skinny ass pretty well in the soft stuff and cut through late season slop nicely
post #8 of 22
Apache Recon. Since you've been around this forum you probably know this ski gets flamed sometimes. But great in crud/chop.
post #9 of 22
OES,

I'll hook you up for a couple of runs on my explosiv's this winter...we still share the same sole size don't we?...can't recall on your new ones....the bindings on em are Rossi turntables so I can't adjust them easily....

Based on my experience with the exploders (95 mid) I would recommend fat - at least that fat. The 170 RX 8's will hang a long time in the east...when those bog down you'll want a fat, powerful mank/crud/powder buster.

This was a real eye opener for me last winter....I had been leaning more towards Karmas or M666/magfire 12 or AC4's, fischer 79's.....

The amazing thing about the exploders is I ski'd rails on them on the groomers at wa. I would not have believed it possible. Man I was way wrong....just like I was way wrong about short carving skis being so much fun.....

I am going to Alta this year....I am only bringing the explosiv's the RX 8's or Allstars are staying home.

So this new fat ski convert says "GO BIG"

Ill leave it to those up on current models to suggest the specifics....I'll be keepin' the "buddhas"
post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by RiDeC58 View Post
I'd consider the Dynastar Mythic Rider. It is wide enough to cover ANY Eastern powder situation, soft enough for reasonable bumps, reasonably stable in crud, and forgiving enough not to punish a level 7-8. I am considering this ski myself.
This would be a correct answer. Depending on the forecast, either these or my beloved 8k's come out west with me.
post #11 of 22
think a 3 ski quiver can cover almost any conditions

you have cat 1 on to cat 2

Cat 2 fatter mid fat skis

179cm Public Enemy for me it the best all mountain ski there is
175cm Head IM88(186cm great out here but so great in tight eastern trees)
177cm Elan 777 or 888 both are great skis and will work great for your purposes
177cm Volkl Bridge Volkls big mountain twin that should be killer east coast crud/pow ski
178cm Dynastar Mythic Rider

Cat 3 fat skis I would buy something above before looking at these
180cm Volkl explosive
179cm K2 Seth
183cm Volkl Gotama
183cm Atomic Pimp (sidewall ski now)
185cm Amarda ARV


but with that recommended ski listing I would go with K2 Public Enemy.

Its a honest ski, does everything you ask of it nothing you dont. No matter the condition you when you ask it to turn it turns, weather you want to carve or skid. Its energetic, nimble, and forgiving. Best bumps ski I own, best crud ski I own, and is better than my 184cm mantras in powder(anyone want these with naxos and climbing skins for 500?), also better than my old 183cm Sugar Daddies in powder.

My only complaint is it doesnt like really high speed, which you will probably never go fast enough to find anyways, wish they made a 184cm PE.
post #12 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by NorSkier View Post
You should always buy skis in pairs...
Well, this explains an awful lot

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Originally Posted by hrstrat57 View Post
OES,

I'll hook you up for a couple of runs on my explosiv's this winter...we still share the same sole size don't we?...can't recall on your new ones....the bindings on em are Rossi turntables so I can't adjust them easily....

[ ... ]

The amazing thing about the exploders is I ski'd rails on them on the groomers at wa. I would not have believed it possible. Man I was way wrong....just like I was way wrong about short carving skis being so much fun.....

So this new fat ski convert says "GO BIG"
Sounds like I may be looking for some fatties! Love to try the Explosivs (305 is the sole length on the new boots). Spotted a pair of Head M88's at Mountainside today ... they looked plenty fat at 88. After skiing skinny skis most of my career, it'll be interesting to try 'em wide ... somehow I can't imagine a 95.
post #13 of 22
(Dropping in. Enjoying this thread.)
post #14 of 22
You have a great #1.

If I still lived in Stowe, I'd consider the previously mentioned Mythic Rider along with the Nordica Afterburner and Atomic Crimson among other really good choices.

But.....I live in the West and my middle ski is the Mythic.

SJ
post #15 of 22
Medium flex
Around 90mm wide
Radius from 20-30m
Around 180cm long

Plenty of skis to chose from. Demo.
post #16 of 22
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Originally Posted by OldEasternSkier View Post
Sounds like I may be looking for some fatties! Love to try the Explosivs (305 is the sole length on the new boots). Spotted a pair of Head M88's at Mountainside today ... they looked plenty fat at 88. After skiing skinny skis most of my career, it'll be interesting to try 'em wide ... somehow I can't imagine a 95.
305 is good, you can click in...set on my Tecnica explosion 304. (explosiv, explosion is there a trend here?)

If you recall I now have kinda a 2 1/2 ski quiver....the 170 RX8 for quick stuff, the 175 RX8 for the longer(faster) arcs in lieu of the RX 9 I wanted(longer RX 8 a better choice IMHO) and the Explosiv.

I bought the exploders on a whim....mint condition, sweet deal. I was skeptical, yep maybe even a little afraid of them...ok not really but a little concerned...

I never dreamed I would be able to ski them on groomers......but man in a few inches of manky wa wa chop they pulverize.

Again, I was stunned. Not even a thought of bringing any other ski out west when I go. Can't wait to turn em loose in the steep and deep.

I got a test drive reserved for you: but exploders are getting hard to find.....and I found out why. Guess they are kinda like my wilson st vincent prostaff 85 or my Ping eye 2's.....old school kinda perfect.

My quiver is perfect.....done....and my lucky puppy son inherited the 168 Allstars so he is happy too!!

BTW I also hear real good things about the 179 public enemy from a couple of my son's buds.....and last years Karma....the Bridge might be even better. I ski'd the Karma and liked it a lot.....but discovered I don't need a midfat....if I was a bumper or a tree dweller I might want the midfat...but I'm out on beating up my knees anymore.

Good thread, I'll bow out now....my ski's are all out of production so if you are in the hunt for new gear my comments aren't really relevant...but you are still in for the test drive.....
At least it will leave you drooling for a ski you probably can't find.....:
post #17 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
You have a great #1.

If I still lived in Stowe, I'd consider the previously mentioned Mythic Rider along with the Nordica Afterburner and Atomic Crimson among other really good choices.

But.....I live in the West and my middle ski is the Mythic.

SJ
Thanks Jim!

Read your previous review on the Mythic (along with the 888) here ... Makes me think I should go find one (or a pair as NorSkier suggests) and give it a try.

(BTW, if you Google "Dynastar Mythic Rider" SierraJim's post comes up first in the list ... Way to go EpicSki! )

So far it sounds like I'll be looking fatter than I originally thought. I was leaning toward low 80's, but so far the reccos are coming in more toward the upper 80's to low 90's.

I think RiDeC58 summed it best ...

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Originally Posted by RiDeC58 View Post
The RX-8 will handle most conditions in the East until you get to serious, crud/slop and powder(?where?)--
No sense getting a "tweener" ski that has considerable overlap with the RX-8. Shoot right up into the range where the RX-8 starts tapering off.
post #18 of 22
You will be able to blast crud and slush with an SX12 or an atomic or Nordica GS ski in about 175 to 185 cm. A bandit B2 would handle the crud and slush and might be better in powder, but the RX8 is good enough for the soft snow, and the Bandit would have a lower speed limit in the frozen stuff.
post #19 of 22
Volkl Bridge 177
post #20 of 22
Some of the previous posts are skis should definitely consider and can probably find some '06-07 leftovers relatively cheap:
K2 Apache Recons
Rossignol Bandit B2
Fischer AMC79

I just picked up last year's Blizzard Titan Eights, which I'm hoping will fill the void my RX8s leave when deeper/cruddier (got at the end of the season in March and loved them as you seem to).

Believe for here in the East, a carver/midfat quiver would be tough to beat...
post #21 of 22
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Originally Posted by Rushski View Post
Some of the previous posts are skis should definitely consider and can probably find some '06-07 leftovers relatively cheap:
K2 Apache Recons
Rossignol Bandit B2
Fischer AMC79

Believe for here in the East, a carver/midfat quiver would be tough to beat...
Nos. 1 & 2 are cheap for a reason - you can do (much) better.

Keep thinking "Mythic Rider, Mythic Rider, Mythic Rider....." Or - get some 8800's which, when I spoke with Dynastar about updating mine to Mythic Rider's, they said there wasn't enough difference to make it worthwhile.

You can get decent prices on 8800's. The topsheet isn't as cool, but, well, at least it's not a B2.
post #22 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
Keep thinking "Mythic Rider, Mythic Rider, Mythic Rider....."
Sooo sleepy ... can't resist ... must ... buy ... skis ...

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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post
You can get decent prices on 8800's. The topsheet isn't as cool, but, well, at least it's not a B2.
Sport liquidators has 8800s flat for $469 ... oh, so tempting :

BTW, does anyone know a shop in the NE that demos Dynastar? Would really love to try 'em before I buy 'em.
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