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Ski Recommendations for 14 year old

post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
My oldest son (I have 3) will turn 14 in February and has been skiing for 5 years. We live a short distance from Pico Mountain in Vermont and he skis 2 days a week. He weighs 87 pounds and has been skiing on Salomon Equipe 10T size 136 for the last two seasons. Despite the skiis, he has not participated in the Pico ski racing program. Like many kids, he is fast and fearless on the steeps, bumps, etc., but technique is still underdeveloped.

I'd like to get him a decent pair of skis for Killington & Pico mountains. He loves Killington's terrain parks, but Pico does not have one and that is where we do 98% of our skiing. He mentioned that he likes the idea of twin tips, so he can spin and fool around with the guys. That's fine but I want him to also be working on improving his carving, bumping, and general technique.

I would greatly appreciate your thoughts on what skis we should be looking at while still on a budget.

Thanks in advance everyone. Come on up and ski Vermont!

VTFogg
post #2 of 17
Check out the Dynastar Troubled Youth.
post #3 of 17
That's rough Epic. His son might be one of 7 in the world that might not be affected by the curse of teenagership.

Hmm twin tips, carving and bumps. That's a tall order. Only one ski in this budget ? The kids really like the twin tips and few are good carvers like a real good carving ski would be.
There are some great skiers working the park and pipe scene scoring medals and making big money . Would that be so awful ?
Maybe a bit of both if you can afford them. A play ski and a good carving ski and let him enjoy both .Usually what makes them a good park and bumps ski detracts from it being a good carving ski.
post #4 of 17
Garry - I teah the top group in our seasonal kids program.I have kids his size usin that ski to carve up Stowe and rip bumps all day. That's a nice ski, it's not a one trick park pony.
post #5 of 17
I just looked it up . I thought you were kidding but not so. Dynastars have some youth park skis with funny names.

Maybe the Salomon 1080 would be another one to look at .
post #6 of 17
Thread Starter 
Does anyone know the difference between the 2006 model and the 2007 or 2008, other than graphics? It looks like there have been some changes. I note that they are both wood core and I see the 2006 have dimensions of 110/80/103 for a 15meter turning radius, versus the 2007 dimensions of 106/76/99 with the same turning radius. There seem to be some good prices on the 2006 model out there. Is the 2007 & 2008 that much better that I shouldn't get the 2006 model?
post #7 of 17
My middle son who was in approximately the same situation, is on an older model Dynastar twintip called the "Concept". We found it on deep clearance somewhere online, and it comes in a 153 cm length. It has been perfect for him, as it's not such a big/fat/stiff board in comparison to most of the latest generation twintips on the market. Perfect for those "tweeners".

AM.
post #8 of 17
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Originally Posted by VTFogg View Post
Does anyone know the difference between the 2006 model and the 2007 or 2008, other than graphics? It looks like there have been some changes. I note that they are both wood core and I see the 2006 have dimensions of 110/80/103 for a 15meter turning radius, versus the 2007 dimensions of 106/76/99 with the same turning radius. There seem to be some good prices on the 2006 model out there. Is the 2007 & 2008 that much better that I shouldn't get the 2006 model?
I'd just get the '06 if you have good price on it. I've held the '06 and '07 next to each other and they seemed the same. Maybe thet are listing dimensions for different sizes? Wanna let us kow where you found a deal?
post #9 of 17
A couple of thoughts:

I posted the same general question here: http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=55532 and got some useful information. And some useless commentary as well. Low signal to noise ratio, but you might be interested.

Head Mad Trix 75 - wood core twin, the Head twintips have a decent rep for durability and versatility - here http://www.evogear.com/outlet/skis/h...x-75-2007.aspx . Evogear has a lot of other twintips on closeout as well.

There are Dynastar Legend 3800's in short lengths available CHEAP on ebay right now, like $100 new. I've read these are the same as 4800's with different graphics; and I've also read they are a slightly softer ski. Either way, that's a nice versatile ski that's not a twin tip, but does have a nicely turned up tail that doesn't lock in like a race ski and ought to be easier in moguls and freestyle skiing.

Last, for what it's worth -- my solution for a similar skier was a little unconventional but I'm thinking it will work. We'll see how it goes when the season starts. I found a pair of hardpack oriented telemark skis - Fischer T-Stix - 165 cm, mounted with alpine bindings. This is the same ski as a Fischer Big Stix 7.6 (i.e., dimensions = 115/76/100), which is similar to the Dynastar Legend series and Volkl G3 etc. in having a turned up tail but not a full twin tip -- but has a lighter flex (and tons of camber) for tele skiing. I have the Big Stix in 175 and its a lot of fun in moguls and a much more "playful" ski than my pure carving boards. I found the tele version at a great price and at 165 cm it's the right height for my kid -- now approx 5'6" -- and the tele version should be easier for him than the Big Stix, he weighs in around 100 lbs. Many tele skis are available cheaper than alpine to start with, and are really marked down now especially in shorter lengths.
post #10 of 17
Thread Starter 
http://www.evogear.com/outlet_result...troubled+youth

evogear seems to have size 138 cm only. My son is 5' 3" and 87 pounds and growing. 138 seems short to me. What size do you recommend for him epic?
post #11 of 17
For 87 pounds, 138 doesn't sound too small. How tall are the 136s on him. I usually take my kds shopping in person (busy weekend coming up), so I'm not sure what thier heights and weights are. The fun thing is, about half of them were in the same boots last year, so they could swap skis and you could see which ones were too stiff or too soft.
post #12 of 17
My 13 yo was about 5'4" last year, but came in around 110# He was skiing my RX8's in a 170, but really should have been on a 160. This year however, he's at 5'9" and 135#.

I wouldn't go as short as a 138. Look for something 150ish at least.
post #13 of 17
I was thinking 148, but just a guess.
post #14 of 17
You may want to look at two K2 skis, the Public Enemy (may be too stiff for his weight) and the Silencer.
post #15 of 17
Also, odds are he is going to start growing like crazy any day now. That's about the age.
post #16 of 17
I would get a pair of 154cm K2 Misdeamnor(the girls skis) and paint over it. same dimensions as the old PE with alittle softer flex.

The PE kills its everywhere, carves better than alot of 'carvers" and is the hands down winner in crud, bumps, and trees..not to mention pretty good in powder too.

How many 14 year old kids want to ski groomers unless its a park?

my guess is almost none, get a ski that kid willl like and not you.
post #17 of 17
Dude 87 lbs. on a 14 year old......daaaaammmn. Anyway, get twins, just save yourself the trouble of making your son look like a gayper. Go for some armadas or some fujatives. For his weight a ski with lots of flex like the fujative will be a really fun ski for him. I doubt he's doing a lot of charging at this point in time so no need to go over a 80-85 waist.
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