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post #1 of 10
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I'm looking for some advice on new skis and bindings for this winter. First, a little background on my ability level:

I skied for my first 4 seasons on a pair of old first generation parabolic K2's, mostly in the Tahoe area, becoming competent on groomed blue and black runs in the area.

Last winter I went on a skiing trip out to Winter Park, CO with some friends who are ex-ski patrol there and improved dramatically. I feel much more solid in powder, bumps, trees, steeps, chutes, and just about any terrain except parks. After a while I could hang with the ex-patrol guys on the double blacks and off piste stuff, but my form was still a lot sloppier than theirs.

I picked up some '05 volkl 5 stars off craigslist just before the CO trip last year and definitely enjoyed the improvement over the old k2s. One of the bindings broke at the end of the trip, so I'm contemplating buying new skis instead of putting money into old skis that aren't the best for what I'd like to eventually get into, which is backcountry and big mountain skiing.

Being a poor college student, I'm trying to stick to a one ski quiver. I'm hoping to put AT bindings (dukes or freeride +) on the new skis and use my old alpine boots with the setup. I'll rent AT boots for trips until I can afford to buy a pair. I'm 5'9", 150 lbs and am thinking about skis in the mid 170s. The skis I'm currently looking at are the Mantras, 179 Bros, Prophet 90 or 100, and some of the new Black Diamond skis. In all honesty, a lot of my skiing will still be inbounds on groomers, powder and tree runs, but I'd like to find a ski that I won't outgrow as my ability improves. I do have one backcountry hut trip planned for this winter as well as skiing in Tahoe and CO again. I'm willing to deal with extra weight on an AT setup in exchange for better downhill performance. Any thoughts on these skis or others I should consider?
post #2 of 10
Sort of in the same boat as you, being a poor college student that is who wants one pair of bomber skis for everything.

I chose to get new prophet 100's for this year. I don't ski a lot of groomers in all honesty so that wasn't a huge consideration to me. They seem like a really solid everyday ski for out west though.
post #3 of 10
Get boots first if you don't have them.
post #4 of 10
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Originally Posted by quentoncassidy View Post

Being a poor college student, I'm trying to stick to a one ski quiver. I'm hoping to put AT bindings (dukes or freeride +) on the new skis and use my old alpine boots with the setup. I'll rent AT boots for trips until I can afford to buy a pair. I'm 5'9", 150 lbs and am thinking about skis in the mid 170s. The skis I'm currently looking at are the Mantras, 179 Bros, Prophet 90 or 100, and some of the new Black Diamond skis. In all honesty, a lot of my skiing will still be inbounds on groomers, powder and tree runs, but I'd like to find a ski that I won't outgrow as my ability improves. I do have one backcountry hut trip planned for this winter as well as skiing in Tahoe and CO again. I'm willing to deal with extra weight on an AT setup in exchange for better downhill performance. Any thoughts on these skis or others I should consider?
Seriously, Buy Boots first! Go to a good boot guy and get a good fit!
You can demo skis with your new boots and buy when you get stoked about a demo ski that you just can't live without.

Boots First!
post #5 of 10
I think your abilities are more advanced than mine, but it sounds like we're looking for similar setups. I posted the question on the Backcountry section and got some pretty sound advice:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=59189
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post #7 of 10
yup I agree with others, get the best boot you can afford. Starting with a proper boot will do more than any ski will.

Then go buy a Dynastar 8800 or Mythic Rider.

Great go anywhere do anything ski that is light and a great size for all mountain. A popular ski with alot of backcountry tour people.
post #8 of 10
I'm with the crowd on this. Buy your boots first.

Dennis
post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 
Interesting, I guess I didn't realize that people went for the boots first, I'll start looking into them as well. Right now I'm leaning towards some BD Havocs with freeride plus bindings. Any recommendations for AT boots to go with that setup? I'd like something capable of backcountry touring but still acceptable for resort skiing with that setup since I'll still be spending most of my time inbounds. Thanks for the help.
post #10 of 10
Boots first - even though buying boots might not be as exciting as skis, crappy fitting boots make great skis ride poorly. You can't drive high end skis with rental boots/poor fitting boots.

I think the Mantra in a 177 or the Prophet 100 in 179 would suit your needs well. I haven't skied the Prophet 90, but have heard they are a nice ski as well for more dedicated front-side skiing.

The 179 Bro has a turn radius in the mid-30's - while they will make shorter radius turns if pushed hard, they are a MUCH straighter ski than the 5 stars you've been riding. The wait time for Bro's is quite long and you will most likely be waiting into 2008 for your skis. Great ski though, I have a pair of 192's getting mounted this week

Oh yeah - get your boots first and then try to demo a few skis.

The Mantra should be found easily to demo. I ski the 184 Mantra as my everyday ski and couldn't be happier. I am 6'2/215 - so a bit bigger than you. I'd also recommend the Atomic Nomad Crimson (the fattest of the Nomad line) - I haven't skied them, but have heard great things about them as an all-mountain one-ski quiver.

Good luck. Buy boots first.
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