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Need help with functions on fischer boot

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Hey guys!
I got a fischer somatech rc4 competition boot, and there has always been some things that I've been wondering about.

first: what is "forward lean adjust"? and how do I adjust it?

second: what is "adjustable canting"? and how should I adjust it?

third: what would I be using the adjustable spoiler for?

Please help me I've had those boots for a year and I don't even know if I'm using them properly...

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Kasper
post #2 of 14
Don't use the canting, ist not canting anyway. If you need canting grind down the sole (well not you but a good bootfitter).

The forward lean can be adjusted in two positions, to change you have to turn the metall plate in the back upsidedown and it will provide you with quite a lot more forward lean.

Concerning the spoiler, I think its only there to be removed by people with very thick legs, low muscle beginning like females.
post #3 of 14
The canting adjustment is actually an upper cuff alignment adjustment. It is designed to align the upper cuff to your lower leg angle. This in turn helps to improve knee tracking and keep the ski riding neutral or flat.
This adjustment is best performed by a qualified bootfitter that is skilled at alignment and stance analysis.
Look at Masterfit's America's Best Bootfitters if you need to find one in your area.

The adjustable spoiler is to fill in room behind the calf area, or to increase forward lean if the two position adjustment is not enough.
If you are not racing, and the spoiler when installed is still comfortable, keep the forward lean in it's more upright position and you will be generally OK. If you prefer bumps and backcountry skiing, take the spoiler out to get a more upright and relaxed stance.
post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 
I am racing.. I only ski GS So how should I set up my boots? Shouldn't I get more forward lean?
post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by extremecarver View Post
The forward lean can be adjusted in two positions, to change you have to turn the metall plate in the back upsidedown and it will provide you with quite a lot more forward lean.
The metal plate cannot be turned upside down. It can be taken off, but it can't be turned arround.. Maybe if I switch the one on the left with the one on the right boot?
post #6 of 14
I thought it would be possible, that was the way it was with the precesser F8000 to F9000(WC)
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
Anyone knows how it works?
post #8 of 14
Fischer RC4 Boots

Forward Lean Adjustment
On the back of the boot where the cuff meets the lower shell there should be a metal piece with two screws. With the ratchet that comes with the boots you can loosen the screws and move the metal plate up (less forward lean) or down (more forward lean). Then retighten the screws in the appropriate position. You will just need to play with the foward lean when you go skiing to find the position that works best for you. Remember to bring the ratchet with you.

Canting
It is actually upper cuff shaft adjustment or "shaft canting" as opposed to canting the soles of the boot. The idea is to take the liners out of the boots, step into the boots with the black plastic boot boards remaining inside each boot. Then play with the cant adjustments on each side of each boot until the boot cuff is about an equal distance away from each side of each of your lower legs. Since there is often some difference between a person's legs any needed adjustment may be different for each boot.

You use the ratchet supplied with the boot to loosen the canting screws on both sides of each boot to adjust the cuff. It is much easier and usually more accurate to just stand in the boots looking straight ahead and have a friend do the measuring and any adjusting.

Adjustable spoiler
This can be moved down or simply removed to create more room for larger lower legs. For narrower legs, it can be moved up. There are also pre-drilled holes in the plastic supporting the upper buckles that allow for the repositioning of the buckles to accommodate narrower or wider legs. Again, you use the ratchet that comes with the boots to make that adjustment, if needed.

Hope this helps. Have fun.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
Now I got the Forward Lean Adjustment done now The Adjustable Spoiler just sucks. It can't stay put! Just falls off!
And I still don't get what that Canting thingy does

But till now I'm glad I posted this thread.
post #10 of 14
Well I don't believe that the metal plate holds in any way by just those little screws. On the old modell there was so much pressure on the forward lean setting that it would reset itself without even skiing just by itself. Are you sure you can't turn around that plate, note you must then have a second person holding the boot down to screw it back in with more forward lean as this requires quite a lot of force?
Well then the F9000 had basically plastics double as thick and was more of a full plug boot. The F9000 had to be loosended before doing this on two more screws which then could be put in at another position too, effectiviely you could thereby change the cuff height a bit and change the stiffness, but that outside plate is not anymore built into the boots.
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
I just put on the boot and pushed it a lot forward and then had my mom set in the screws - it was impossible to do it otherwise.. I'm totally sure it cannot be turned around - it is shaped like an L and so is the place where it is put into..
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by GrooK View Post
I just put on the boot and pushed it a lot forward and then had my mom set in the screws - it was impossible to do it otherwise.. I'm totally sure it cannot be turned around - it is shaped like an L and so is the place where it is put into..
You did it correctly.

Spoiler
The spoiler just snaps into position. Just put the hook piece in the back of the spoiler into the slot of your choice (there are two) near the top of the back of the boot cuff. Then push on the spoiler right at the open slot in the spoiler. The spoiler will snap in the boot cuff and will not fall off, if done correctly.

Canting
Take the liners out of your boots. Leave the boot boards in. Step into both boots. Is there close to equal distance between each leg and the left and right side of the top of each boot? If so, you don't have to adjust anything.

If the inside or outside of either leg is closer to one side of the plastic shell or the other or touches either side of the shell top, then have a friend loosen the screws on each side of the boot and shift the cuff until the distance is about equal between the side of your leg and each side of the top of the boot cuff. Now have your friend tighten the screws. Repeat for the other leg, if needed. The shaft adjustment is to help the boot shaft conform to the curve of your lower leg.

Good luck. If this doesn't work for you just take your boots a ski shop. Fischer's adjustments work like many other boots and a bootfitter can quickly make the adjustments.
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
wow, thank you all for some great help!
The thing with the spoiler is that it will not come into place. It has some kind of defect that makes it not fit those holes
post #14 of 14
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Originally Posted by GrooK View Post
wow, thank you all for some great help!
The thing with the spoiler is that it will not come into place. It has some kind of defect that makes it not fit those holes
Sorry that you are having the problems with the spoilers. I would recommend that you return them to the shop where you bought them or contact the Fischer distributor in Denmark and explain the problem to them. According to Fischer's website the Denmark distributor is:

Skitech APS
Golfvej 10
Daenemark - 7400 Herning
Tel. +45 87224047
Fax +45 97122412
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