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Anything Out There Comparable to the SuperShape?

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Are there any skis out there currently that resemble the i.Supershape in flex, shape, and performance? I'm searching for a ski that will be easy for someone to learn on, and the SuperShape fits the bill, but getting a pair costs a small fortune. I like the race-bred design and soft flex combination the best. Anything else I can think of is probably too stiff to qualify into this category...

Would some other reasonable considerations be:
  • Fischer RX6 or RX8
  • Dynastar Contact 10 or 11
  • Elan Speedwave 12 or 14
  • Elan SLX Fusion Pro - too stiff? (Coming off my skis these feel like a wet noodle, but would they still be more ski than a Supershape at the same length?)
  • Atomic ST:11
  • Stockli Spirit Pro
  • Stockli Spirit Ed VI or VII (starting to guess that this list might not be with me in mind yet?)
  • Stockli Laser SC (too stiff?)
  • Salomon Equipe SC (too old?)
I think that covers the spectrum of recent years... the problem is that I haven't skied on hardly any of them to know how they compare to each other. The basic criteria is that the ski has to be easy, has to have confidence inspiring edge hold, has to have a short turning radius (<14m), and has to be a noticeably better performer than an Elan SLX WC.

Later

GREG
post #2 of 22
The fischer Worldcup SC comes close. 118-66-100mm.

I would go for the Elan Speedwave 14 or Stockli.

Michael
post #3 of 22
I'm thinking consumer Racetiger SL.
post #4 of 22
I own SS's and Contact 11's, have owned the Spirit Pros and RX8's. Tough call because the SS's are kinda unique feeling. Closest IMO are the Spirit Pros, but Pro is more forgiving, less tail, and more into medium radius turns than short. Contacts close second for feel, almost as quick, but also more of a medium-long machine, stiffer at same length, prefer more speed. For me, Fischers feel and handle very differently than Heads, so the only point of comparison would be the turn radii and ease of intiation. Can't speak for any of the others.
post #5 of 22
Heluva -

I have a lightly used pair (5 days) of 165cm '06 Supershapes that I'm looking to sell since I picked up a pair of 170's for this season. PM me if you're interested.
post #6 of 22
What size do you need?
post #7 of 22
Woman's ski? Stockli Spirit Ed VII - awesome ski for intermediates through to expert. My wife loves hers although she complains about the weight (VIST TT plate and 4-12 binding)
post #8 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
What size do you need?
165cm >= ski >= 160cm
post #9 of 22
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Originally Posted by Walks View Post
Heluva -

I have a lightly used pair (5 days) of 165cm '06 Supershapes that I'm looking to sell since I picked up a pair of 170's for this season. PM me if you're interested.
He got a REALLY nice pair of 170's

Greg, I agree with Michael, the Elan Speedwave 14 or 12, That Racetiger is also a great suggestion.
post #10 of 22
This ebay pair looks pretty nice (and CHEAP):

http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Head-Supers...QQcmdZViewItem

And this new pair ain't bad either:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2006-07-HEAD...QQcmdZViewItem
post #11 of 22
I had another thought. How about keeping it in the family? Nordica Doberman SL XBi? They didn't bring this ski in last year, but it's in the race catalog this year.
post #12 of 22
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I had another thought. How about keeping it in the family? Nordica Doberman SL XBi? They didn't bring this ski in last year, but it's in the race catalog this year.
I actually thought about that but wasn't sure on the stiffness of the ski. I think they might be too stiff... although I haven't skied a pair in several seasons... and unforunately have not seen a pair in as many years.
post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post
This ebay pair looks pretty nice (and CHEAP):

http://cgi.ebay.com/2007-Head-Supers...QQcmdZViewItem

And this new pair ain't bad either:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2006-07-HEAD...QQcmdZViewItem
Watching them both actually.
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post #15 of 22
There are definitely deals to be had on Supershapes, since they haven't changed anything but the topsheet since they were first released a couple seasons ago.

Failing that, my suggestion which doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere else here is a Rossi 9S Oversize. I'm a little biased as well, generally skiing on stiffer stuff, but from the last time I tried them out, they had a fairly soft but very predictable flex pattern, and a nice balance between forgiveness and edgehold.
post #16 of 22
9S - yeah, probably not a bad choice either.

How about the R11 Mutix
post #17 of 22
You need to consider flex pattern as well as stiffness. One of the great things about the Head skis is the progressive flex. Elans and Fischer both fit into the same category. I find Volkl and Nordica to be quite a bit different.
post #18 of 22
Thread Starter 
You're right Max, that is actually one reason I ski on Nordica's race stock offerings instead of their retail skis - the flex pattern is very even and progressive - very similar to your Heads.
post #19 of 22
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
How about the R11 Mutix
That would be a good idea if it wasn't one of the worst skis ever built.
post #20 of 22
Re the 9S: Use several, both 158 and 165, for training. Don't FEEL like the SS's (lighter, quicker, less stable, more snow feel) but the 165's do have some basic similarities in performance on hard snow, who will enjoy them. Might not be a bad choice, and older models can be found new.
post #21 of 22
i'd agree with the Elan Speedwave 14.... i haven't been on a LOT of that type of ski but found it most comparable to the supershape.
post #22 of 22
Heluva, did you find what you want?
If not, I may have a ski for you!
PM if you are interested!
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