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Midwest - What's there. What's new?

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While trying to find out about new lifts, runs, etc. in the midwest I ran across the following from http://www.snowplaces.com/media/mfacts.htm

Did You Know This About
Midwest Ski Areas?

> There are more than 100 ski areas in 10 states, including: Iowa-5; Illinois-4; Indiana-3; Michigan-39; Minnesota-18; Missouri-2; North Dakota-4; Ohio-5; South Dakota-3; Wisconsin-26.

> Some Midwest areas have opened in October and others stay open until late April.

> About 60 percent of visits are by skiers and 40 percent by snowboarders.

> Areas in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan receive more than 200 inches of snow each winter.

> A quarter-million school children are introduced to skiing & snowboarding at Midwest areas each year.

> A total of more than 5,000 snowguns help supplement Mother Nature and give Midwest areas consistent conditions.

> At 22, the average age of Midwestern skiers and snowboarders is youngest of any region in the U.S.

> Midwestern skiers and snowboarders are committed to their local areas, with an average of nearly 2,200 people buying season passes at each Midwest area.

> More than 40 Midwest ski areas have lift-served snow tubing hills.

Anybody know of any new lift?, runs? etc?

Also, what is the status of Porcupine Mountain?
post #2 of 28
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> At 22, the average age of Midwestern skiers and snowboarders is youngest of any region in the U.S.
This is hard to believe. Given that Utah has one of youngest populations in the country, and how many of them make it up to Brighton. Maybe the tourists skew the numbers here.
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Originally Posted by UtahPowderPig View Post
This is hard to believe. Given that Utah has one of youngest populations in the country, and how many of them make it up to Brighton. Maybe the tourists skew the numbers here.
Utah is not a "region"...but even if it were, the 20-somethings there don't make up for the young kids skiing in the midwest. From what I was of Utah on my past trips, there were considerably fewer kids skiing than here.

The midwest has a lot of after school opportunity that doesn't exist in the rocky mountains.
post #4 of 28
MWskier, none of that information surprises me.
post #5 of 28
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Originally Posted by Harry_Morgan View Post

The midwest has a lot of after school opportunity that doesn't exist in the rocky mountains.

I believe at my local area in southern Wisconsin for about $70 per student local school groups get to ski six evenings with the group AND once they are in the program any weeknight is just an additional $12. Rentals are extra.

From Minnesota:

"Andes Tower Hills is sending the Andes Bus to a school near you to pick up K-12 students after school. We will bring you to Andes, set you up to ski or snowboard, and bring you back to a central location.

NEW THIS SEASON!!
AFTER SCHOOL WEEKDAY UNLIMITED PASS
FOR JUST $59 PLUS TAX
Add unlimited rental for just $99
Good for those 15 and under"

The bus ride is free.

http://www.andestowerhills.com/after-school.html
post #6 of 28
There's a lot of the country that could learn from that.

If the kids don't ski, in 20 years you won't have skiers.
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by Harry_Morgan View Post
Utah is not a "region"
Silly me, I guess.

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...but even if it were, the 20-somethings there don't make up for the young kids skiing in the midwest. From what I was of Utah on my past trips, there were considerably fewer kids skiing than here.
Where did you go? It probably relates to my tourist comment.

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The midwest has a lot of after school opportunity that doesn't exist in the rocky mountains.
I wasn't refering to the 20 somethings, I was refering to all the 14-19 year olds that would show up at Brighton after school and all the 4-10 year olds on the weekends. I don't see how the mid west could offer more opportunity than having the wasatch in your backyard.
post #8 of 28
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Originally Posted by UtahPowderPig View Post

Where did you go? It probably relates to my tourist comment.
Alta, snowbird, park city, canyons, deer valley and snowbasin at various times.

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Originally Posted by UtahPowderPig View Post
I don't see how the mid west could offer more opportunity than having the wasatch in your backyard.
Lots of small areas providing lots of incentives for kids to ski there. Lots of after school programs, school bus programs, cheap lessons.

Utah kicks butt...but it doesn't cater to getting kids on the hill. Look at Brighton: Kids season pass at $579 or $25/day and adult passes at $53/day. That's not a stellar deal. In comparison ours is $188, or free if you're a fifth grader. And there are even better deals for the bus kids and families.

Brighton's intro package is $75/day. That's $300 for a family of four to "enjoy" their first day. There are plenty of areas in the midwest that can get you on the hill for a fraction of that.

Or look at Park City - $590 for a 7 week learn to ski program...compared to our $140. $1300 for the race team, compared to our $260.
post #9 of 28
The local ski areas have a lot of great programs to get new skiers and snowboarders involved.

I have loved my few trips to Vermont and Colorado, but I have to say..........I'm awful fortunate to live in Michigan, and I've an Some Phenomenal fun skiing at these little ski resorts!!
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Originally Posted by Harry_Morgan View Post
There's a lot of the country that could learn from that.

If the kids don't ski, in 20 years you won't have skiers.


I try to put my money where my mouth is and visit my old local hills when I can.
post #11 of 28
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This is hard to believe. Given that Utah has one of youngest populations in the country, and how many of them make it up to Brighton. Maybe the tourists skew the numbers here.
SLC has one of the worst skier ratios out of any 'ski town".

one resort isnt going to skew a average number to one side.

On the Utah age thing its weird being 23 and meeting people my age that are married with kids.
post #12 of 28
In Michigan, the local middle school and high school kids ski all the time. Its a social scene as well as club or sanctioned high school sport.
Plus, since snow falls everywhere, not just "in the mountains" (hills), there's the whole winter playground feel that people get. If you're not skiing or cross country or snow shoeing- there's snowmobiles, ice fishing, pond hockey, etc.. Lots of people really dig winter in the Midwest, and as such, I think there are more skiers per capita than many other areas.
post #13 of 28
Welch Village in MN is creating a "back bowl" expansion... Should be interesting. That's my new "home hill". It's not Mt. Kato, but it will do!!
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Check out this one in the U.P. http://www.mtbohemia.com/
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Check out this one in the U.P. http://www.mtbohemia.com/
Whenever I see that website it makes me want to go to the U.P.

Someday soon I'd like to do a cross country tour of out of the way ski hills...trouble is there are so many of them and the country is so big.
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Whenever I see that website it makes me cringe. Whoo! Look at the extreme skier!



Triple diamond, baby!
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Originally Posted by Harry_Morgan View Post
Whenever I see that website it makes me cringe. Whoo! Look at the extreme skier!



Triple diamond, baby!
Whenever I see it, it makes me
http://www.mtbohemia.com/videos.html
post #18 of 28
Thread Starter 

Little Switzerland WWI and Fun Valley IA to close

I just learned that Little Switzerland in Wisconsin and Fun Valley in Iowa will be closing. Last year Minnesota lost Mt. Frontenac, but the midwest did get Mount Bohemia a few years ago.

When I asked "What's new in the Midwest" I was hoping for some additional lifts or runs, not closures. I have never skied these areas but I know that Little Switzerland had one lift that went up one side of the hill and down the other. providing rides up both sides. I have seen the sign for Fun Valley on I-80 many times on my way to Colorado. Even considered checking it out -- but never did.
post #19 of 28
MWskier, there are some of us in Michigan who are thinking of having a mini GTG up north, at Boyne or Crystal Mountain. Likely at Crystal at this point.
Is this something that those of you in IL and IN would be interested in?
post #20 of 28
Thread Starter 

Little Switzerland WWI and Fun Valley IA to close

I just learned that Little Switzerland in Wisconsin and Fun Valley in Iowa will be closing. Last year Minnesota lost Mt. Frontenac, but the midwest did get Mount Bohemia a few years ago.

When I asked "What's new in the Midwest" I was hoping for some additional lifts or runs, not closures. I have never skied these areas but I know that Little Switzerland had one lift that went up one side of the hill and down the other. providing rides up both sides. I have seen the sign for Fun Valley, IA on I-80 many times on my way to Colorado. Even considered checking it out -- but never did.
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Originally Posted by Harry_Morgan View Post
Whenever I see that website it makes me cringe. Whoo! Look at the extreme skier!



Triple diamond, baby!

The guy's got on a very un-trendy outfit, but get beyond the clothes and look at what he's skiing. Unlike most photos taken at most ski areas, he's not skiing some 20' roll-over. The whole slope is steep as hell. For 900 feet. He's in a really clear spot. In about 40 feet it chokes down to super tight trees and big sharp rocks. I watched a snowboarder drop a 53' cliff at Bohemia in 2001. I'm surprised nobody's been killed there yet.

FWIW - Bohemia offers a $99 Season Pass which depending on the snow year could be an unbelievable steal or a really expensive lift ticket for one day of powder. They do get noticably more snow than anywhere else in the upper midwest due to thier remote location on the Keewenau Penninsula, but they also have bigger, gnarlier rocks to cover up than anywhere else in the upper midwest due to thier remote location on the Keewenau Penninsula. If you like moguls, than the pass is a steal no matter what. As far as I know, they don't even own a groomer.

Bohemia is basically a shorter version of Eagle's Nest at Alta with way way more trees.
post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by trekchick View Post
up north, at Boyne or Crystal Mountain.
...Up north...:
post #23 of 28
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Originally Posted by Jer View Post
The guy's got on a very un-trendy outfit, but get beyond the clothes and look at what he's skiing. Unlike most photos taken at most ski areas, he's not skiing some 20' roll-over.
Maybe beyond the clothes and straight skis and the fact that he's skiing from the third row of the bus...but looking at the other "extreme pix", yeah, I 'd call that a 10' drop.

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The whole slope is steep as hell. For 900 feet. He's in a really clear spot. In about 40 feet it chokes down to super tight trees and big sharp rocks. I watched a snowboarder drop a 53' cliff at Bohemia in 2001. I'm surprised nobody's been killed there yet.
I dunno, I never have skied there. This pic is the biggest drop they show on their website:



It looks like it could be about the best you can do in the midwest...although the testimonials don't do it much justice: "The Extreme Back Country challenged me every bit as much as Steamboat's Christmas Tree bowl."

The whole "95% expert terrain" made me cringe, along with the triple diamonds and the extreme pix and the no beginners sign and "Expedition Everest snowcat rides"...until I saw the video trekchick posted. I really hope the rest of their attitude is really poking fun at themselves.
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
...Up north...:
Okay get ready for something not so moderate!
U.P. yours!!

I was thinking of the flatlanders.
You, will be surprised when I leave my Next door hills such as boyne and Crystal and meet you Up in da Nort!
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You, will be surprised when I leave my Next door hills such as boyne and Crystal and meet you Up in da Nort!
We'll roll out the red carpet for you!! C'mon up.
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Originally Posted by U.P. Racer View Post
We'll roll out the red carpet for you!! C'mon up.


....and Harry_Morgan, stay out of this thread if all you want to do is rip on the Midwest. Congratulations on living in the mountains. That doesn't mean you can ski.
Maybe you suck, maybe you rip. Truthfully, I could care less either way.
Hey, read back. I was, and still do defend the midwest.

I was only ripping on Mt. Bohemias "extreme" advertising. And as I noted, the video that Trekchick liked convinced me that maybe they aren't taking themselves as seriously as it first appeared.
post #27 of 28
I know... sorry. I edited it and deleted that part before you even replied. I was lumping your last bohemia post in with utahpowderpig's initial negativity. I got confused..

sorry.
post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by Harry_Morgan View Post
Hey, read back. I was, and still do defend the midwest.

I was only ripping on Mt. Bohemias "extreme" advertising. And as I noted, the video that Trekchick liked convinced me that maybe they aren't taking themselves as seriously as it first appeared.
You gotta admit, its all about fun!!


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We'll roll out the red carpet for you!! C'mon up.
You have Red Carpet up der in da U P?:
I vas tinkink yuz guyz jus had dem der vood planks, doncha no.
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