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Binding Screws

post #1 of 39
Thread Starter 
The recent drill bit thread and a subsequent question reminded me about sources for binding screws and typical sizes. When I looked for some it wasn't a common item causing me to consider carrying them and other hard to find items.

Are binding screws a common need/hard to obtain item?

What are the common sizes and not so common sizes?

Any other items that we should consider carrying because they are a PITA to obtain?

TIA
post #2 of 39
Most of the tuning supply companies have screws. Personally, I have had enough laying around from adding lifters or throwing bindings out. Unfortunatly, there is a bit of trial and error when you are putting sets together so what I have won't help too much.
post #3 of 39
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Most of the tuning supply companies have screws.
Which companies? I haven't checked lately, but I don't recall seeing ski binding screws on any of the main store sites (Tognar, Artech, RR, Race-werks, Race Place). The only place I think I've seen them is in the SVST wholesale catalogue.
post #4 of 39
Me neither, I see some snobord binding screws here and there but not ski binding screws. I would DEFINITELY buy some if SOMEBODY sold them!
post #5 of 39
Thread Starter 
So......which sizes/specs should we order next week to satisfy this high demand?

Alpine Binding Screws
5.5 x 9.5
5.5 x 11.5
5.5 x 13
5.5 x 15
5.5x 16
5.5 x 18
6.5 x 17.5
5.5 x 21.5
5.5 x 28
Nylon Tap-In inserts


(And other replacement parts...?)
post #6 of 39
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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post

(And other replacement parts...?)
I could use a left knee, right shoulder and a fresh L5/S1 disk would be great!
post #7 of 39
I don't have a collection like Phil, and would like to remove some lifters from some Look bindings. I'm thinking the 9.5 or more likely 11.5 length is what I would need to mount them flush. Yeah, I'd buy.
post #8 of 39
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Originally Posted by Voltron View Post
Which companies? I haven't checked lately, but I don't recall seeing ski binding screws on any of the main store sites (Tognar, Artech, RR, Race-werks, Race Place). The only place I think I've seen them is in the SVST wholesale catalogue.
Tognar DOES have them, but the page they're on is confusing, making it look like they are for snowboard bindings. If you call Tognar, I'm sure they can set you up, they are damn friendly and helpful.
post #9 of 39
The only issue I see is that there are many combinations of head style and length, and the head can be kind of important.

Longer screws can always be made shorter.
post #10 of 39
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
Tognar DOES have them, but the page they're on is confusing, making it look like they are for snowboard bindings. If you call Tognar, I'm sure they can set you up, they are damn friendly and helpful.
It's not just me Terry
post #11 of 39
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Originally Posted by bjohansson View Post
It's not just me....
What? Vindictive, or just into turning others on to other options?

(FWIW, previously your post felt like a targeted cheap shot, especially after putting in a bit of time trying to help someone out. What was your purpose posting here? Besides if I sold one more drill bit, I could've retired and afforded to travel and ski at my leisure.

If others can't find what they need, please let me know. I've been looking for an excuse to supply binding screws for those in need and was trying to make sure what I should stock up on.

It's snowing (err, slopping) in them thar hills!
post #12 of 39
28 and 21.5 flathead for sure and probably some others.......
post #13 of 39
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the positive input, guys.

(Binding screws, the path to retirement? : )
post #14 of 39
Thread Starter 
Just off the phone w/SVST:
-Older skis probably used longer screws as the skis were thicker and newer skis typically require shorter screws.
-The thread pitch is unique to binding screws and optimized for skis and snowboards. A typical hardware store machine screw is NOT a recommended alternative.
-tapping metal topsheets or mounting plates is highly recommended

Alternatives & procedures for measuring (calipers are best):
-measure existing screw if available
-measure existing hole diameters
-measure hole depths (calipers have depth gauges)
-is the screw a flathead , tapered or have a shoulder?
-take picture of existing screw and send it with dimensions

(We'll get a bunch of flavors in stock.)

HTH
post #15 of 39
I think if your site could provide serviceable information on selecting and measuring for the right screws, that would be huge. As it is, if you can find these, its really unclear what you are buying. And I would say the same thing about any of the mechanical stuff like drill bits, taps, helicoils etc.
post #16 of 39
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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post
What? Vindictive, or just into turning others on to other options?

(FWIW, previously your post felt like a targeted cheap shot, especially after putting in a bit of time trying to help someone out. What was your purpose posting here? Besides if I sold one more drill bit, I could've retired and afforded to travel and ski at my leisure.

If others can't find what they need, please let me know. I've been looking for an excuse to supply binding screws for those in need and was trying to make sure what I should stock up on.

It's snowing (err, slopping) in them thar hills!
Dude, who pee-ed in your Wheaties? Vindictive?????

I was sort of apologizing, but I gues that emoticon didn't convey the apology. I wasn't tring to push people away from your business. I'm sorry I've gotten great service from Tognar.::
post #17 of 39
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
I think if your site could provide serviceable information on selecting and measuring for the right screws, that would be huge. As it is, if you can find these, its really unclear what you are buying. And I would say the same thing about any of the mechanical stuff like drill bits, taps, helicoils etc.
It's on my growing 'To-Do' list and somewhat opens a can of worms. I'll try to address this issue. I was hoping that the pertinent posts in this thread would help clear up some of the fog for all of us.

Thanks for the constructive feedback.
post #18 of 39
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Originally Posted by bjohansson View Post
I was sort of apologizing, but I gues that emoticon didn't convey the apology. I wasn't tring to push people away from your business. I'm sorry I've gotten great service from Tognar.::
That's cool. BTW, as Jeff Goldblum said in The Big Chill:
"I couldn't get through the day without at least one good rationalization."
post #19 of 39
Slide Wright guy, Personally I'm planning on giving you some business. Sorry, I'm slow on the up take of your previous advice. As the song goes life happens...I really don't know what screw sizes, etc. to recommend. Perhaps the common sizes for Look/Rossi bindings. They seem to be the common bindings to be swapped around with the Park/Pipe crowd around here. When I posted the last thread about mounting bindings I was hoping you would respond. So, I drew you out so to speak. Thats why I became a member of this site. I plan on being a contributor as well.

Another thing that impressed me was the selection of stuff you have. Stuff like a thread insert is nearly impossible to find.

The 20% discount is sweet, and an admirable asset to this community.

Salut!
post #20 of 39
Thread Starter 
Thanks JZ.

FWIW, here is a binding screw 'chart' scanned from SVST:



HTH
post #21 of 39
I will need screws, but I get dizzy trying to figure it out since I haven't got all of my bindings yet, and am planning on removing plates from them.

Also, I need screws longer than 28mm to accomodate Salomon Drive+ risers, and those are 35mm by my measurement, which I stole off of the heels of some Propulse, with a flat head, the ones which taper diaginally from the top, with a 9mm wide head (wider won't fit through the holes through the toe piece) I only need four of these.

Tognar, doesn't have the longer screws, so I thought I'd throw this infinitesimal bone your way. I should have all of my bindings delivered by the end of the weekend, then I'll be able to compile a list.
post #22 of 39
Thread Starter 
I caught your reply on the way out to a ski swap and grabbed the screws on the way in hope of checking out sizes at a hardware store out of curiosity.

I picked up a US pitch guide and machine screws and here's what it looks like an alternative for you to consider (if you like living on the edge :

-the alpine screws measure a 14 threads/in pitch
-the heads measure just under 10mm
-most of binding screw sizes have stubbed tips, not pointed

-the machine screws measure 14 threads/in pitch
-they have the same diameter as the alpine screws
-the heads measure just over 10mm. Sanding or grinding the heads can easily net 9mm or so
-a ground down tip 1 1/2" machine screw can easily net 35mm length

I do not currently have a longer 'alpine binding screw source'. Inserts may also be an option.

HTH
post #23 of 39
The ones on Look/Rossi toepieces seem to get rounded out on a regular basis.
post #24 of 39
The specs for alpine binding screws are available for a sum from ISO, if you really want to get specific about it.

My advice on the screws for those Salomons is to root around the screw bin at your local shop, or alternatively ask around for a free "Poweaxe" lifter which has it's own screws so you can use the short ones you have.
post #25 of 39
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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post
That's cool. BTW, as Jeff Goldblum said in The Big Chill:
"I couldn't get through the day without at least one good rationalization."
The rest of that quote is important
post #26 of 39
Thread Starter 
From IMDB:
Quote:
Michael: I don't know anyone who could get through the day without two or three juicy rationalizations. They're more important than sex.
Sam Weber: Ah, come on. Nothing's more important than sex.
Michael: Oh yeah? Ever gone a week without a rationalization?
post #27 of 39
FWIW, I have a tap (bought at Artech) that matches the pitch and thread on the binding screws kicking around my tool box. It's marked M 5.3 X 1.81.
post #28 of 39
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Originally Posted by midfielder View Post
FWIW, I have a tap (bought at Artech) that matches the pitch and thread on the binding screws kicking around my tool box. It's marked M 5.3 X 1.81.
There you go, thanks, couldn't remember the numbers and google wasn't helping. Definitely unique to ski bindings.
post #29 of 39
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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post


always important in any discussion of screws---eh??
post #30 of 39
No matter how many of "the most popular" binding screws you buy, you will still not have the exact one you need when you need it. Murphys law I guess!
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