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Too Wide for Me?

post #1 of 11
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Long story short, I've been skiing all my life in Western New York State. The hills are small and powder days don't really exist (groomers or mogul runs dominate). Up until now I always just sort of skiied on whatever my dad bought me (currently on some 2004 Atomic SX:9s that are wayy too short for me).

As of the last 2 years I make a trip to some real mountains at least once a year (this year I plan to hit Breck in Jan, Killington in Feb, and probably somewhere in the west over spring break). Obviously the Atomics are quite narrow and get their asses kicked when there is some real snow to deal with.

So I was all set to go ahead and find some Public Enemys. And then I found a nice price on some Lib Tech NAS's that I desperately want to try, as I keep hearing rave reviews about them. But the waist is 99mm.

So my question is, will this be too wide for me? My number one concern is having skis that perform well on my trips. Back home I probably will only get out once or twice a week due to classes. Would a 99 (keeping in mind that the NAS's are supposed to be sick on cutting through any snowpack) be too much to enjoy on a normal weeknight easter pack?
post #2 of 11
As you noted, you should buy skis that will perform well on your epic days, not on just your average so so days. Some more info on ur height, weight, skiing ability would be helpful just btw. I think 99mm is fine if you dont mind giving up some versatility on groomers and bumps. Im someone who lives for powder days, so i bought a ski that kicks ass in powder. In my opinion. THE PUBLIC ENEMIES ARE TOOOO NARROW. If you are planning to have fun on skis in powder, they should be 93mm or so and up. Anyhthing below 104mm should be fine. The mid eighties, while they are very veratile, just dont perform in powder like a fatter ski will. You will have trouble floating, dealing with tip dive, going over the bars...sry..i mtb a lot im just used to that term and over all struggling. Go for the wider skis, i reccommend salamon guns, volkl mantras, rossignol b4's, volkl gotamas, some fatter lines. Try and demo the skis before you buy them. and move outta ny....
post #3 of 11
A 86 wasted ski is my everyday ske for the east. I have a pair of Seths that I will ski a fair amount, even in the east. It is a great soft snow ski. By soft snow, I mean "spring" type conditions. If you are under 200lb, you will be safe with something in the 90mm range.
post #4 of 11
FYI, the new 2007/2008 Lib Tech NAS Freeride are 93mm. The "old" ones from last season are 99mm.

I actually bought a pair without having skied them (a general no-no, but I figured what the hell). Looking forward to getting out on them this season. They've been designated as my AT ski since they're light and all the hoopla about the "magnetraction" made me feel they'd be good for variable conditions. That and the owner of the shop I bought 'em from has been riding them for 2 seasons and loves 'em. He swore he got 50+ days on 'em in Utah (I trust him more or less as a college buddy used to work for him for about 5 -7 years). Oh yeah, for a shop owner, he only keeps 3 skis in his quiver, which i thought was quite restrained (he's also had several of the skis I ride in his quiver at one time, which also leads me to trust him more or less).
post #5 of 11
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Originally Posted by Predator88 View Post
Long story short, I've been skiing all my life in Western New York State. The hills are small and powder days don't really exist (groomers or mogul runs dominate). Up until now I always just sort of skiied on whatever my dad bought me (currently on some 2004 Atomic SX:9s that are wayy too short for me).

As of the last 2 years I make a trip to some real mountains at least once a year (this year I plan to hit Breck in Jan, Killington in Feb, and probably somewhere in the west over spring break). Obviously the Atomics are quite narrow and get their asses kicked when there is some real snow to deal with.

So I was all set to go ahead and find some Public Enemys. And then I found a nice price on some Lib Tech NAS's that I desperately want to try, as I keep hearing rave reviews about them. But the waist is 99mm.

So my question is, will this be too wide for me? My number one concern is having skis that perform well on my trips. Back home I probably will only get out once or twice a week due to classes. Would a 99 (keeping in mind that the NAS's are supposed to be sick on cutting through any snowpack) be too much to enjoy on a normal weeknight easter pack?
I would go with a PE as ski for back east but I go the wider side of thing and even think the PE is too wide for everyday in western New York or a place like killington. The Libtech magne traction does work but i would check out something below 90 to buy.

A simple way to increase powder performance and still have good edge on ice is to get a longer softer ski. The PE is a example of this where the 85mm waist is pretty good on bumps and groomers but in the 179cm size its skis powder and crud very good.
post #6 of 11
I wouldn't bother with anything over the 80's range if you're normally skiing WNY. I rarely get off my slalom skis because it is usually too icy, and the hills are too short to make anything much longer worth-while. the Lib Tech skis are sweet looking, but only if you are sitting at the base of a 2000' vert mountain that actually gets snow that falls out of the sky instead of snow that gets fired out of a gun. I even think the PE is too wide for around here, but if you are dead set on going for a ski that will let you survive out west it isn't an awful option. For skiing around here there are many, much better options.
Later
GREG
post #7 of 11
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
I wouldn't bother with anything over the 80's range if you're normally skiing WNY. I rarely get off my slalom skis because it is usually too icy, and the hills are too short to make anything much longer worth-while. the Lib Tech skis are sweet looking, but only if you are sitting at the base of a 2000' vert mountain that actually gets snow that falls out of the sky instead of snow that gets fired out of a gun. I even think the PE is too wide for around here, but if you are dead set on going for a ski that will let you survive out west it isn't an awful option. For skiing around here there are many, much better options.
Later
GREG
so agreed I would still use something a PE quite a bit...but I would have and mostly ski on a under 70mm waisted ski.
post #8 of 11
I suggest you post this over on TGR
post #9 of 11
Hey, hey, the hell with TGR. Get some Sugar Daddys. Great edge hold on hard day, and unbelievable in the soft stuff. Besides the looks you will get in the lift line for a 100 mm ski are worth every skid you take.
post #10 of 11
TGR would be a good place to post as well.

I used PE's as my daily ski for years ( I live in WA). It is a good all mountain ski and can hold an edge in ice ok.

That being said this year I purchased a pair of Line Prophet 100's as my everyday ski. They have a metal matrix in them that works to create pressure points on the edge to dig into hard pack. It works well.

My advice for you would be to pick up a pair of Prophet 90's, seeing as the 100's will be a little wide for an east coast ski. The 90's still float well but will rip the groomers and hardpack even better.
post #11 of 11
Remember that not everyday out west is a powder day. If it were me I would keep the Atomics (at least for this year) for using at your home mountain. I would bring them with me when I came out west but I would plan on demoeing as much as possible. I would try several different skis to find one that fit my style and likes. It sounds like you have not spent very much time on a wide ski. Give as many of them a try as possible before you decied on one (or 2 or 3). You should be able to decide if they would work for you back in WNY by skiing on them in the west.
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