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Need a replacement for Fischer RC4's

post #1 of 16
9/17/07 at 10:56pm
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As you might have guessed from the title I'm on a 2004 pair of Fischer WC SC RC4's in 170 length. This is my first pair of skis like this, having gone fro a 183cm Vokl P50, and I really love them.
What would be some good replacement options?

More importantly, what size? I'm Male, 6ft tall, about 175-180lbs. I'm fairly agressive but still working on my technique.

Thanks for the help.
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post #2 of 16
9/18/07 at 12:13am
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Originally Posted by fishEH View Post
As you might have guessed from the title I'm on a 2004 pair of Fischer WC SC RC4's in 170 length. This is my first pair of skis like this, and I really love them.
What would be some good replacement options?

More importantly, what size? I'm Male, 6ft tall, about 175-180lbs. I'm fairly agressive but still working on my technique.

Thanks for the help.
A 2008 Fischer RC4 WC SC?

I'm about the same weight and 5' 11". I have the '05-'06 Fischer WC SC @ 160cm and at 165cm. I can see no reason to go longer than 165cm in a SL type ski at your height and weight. If you like the Fischer feel, you might look at the Fischer RX-8 Fire which you will very likely find more forgiving than the RC4 WC SC and a tad more versatile. It will work very well in in a somewhat longer 170cm length. There are a ton of RX-8 reviews and comments that have been posted here on the RX-8.

For a more GS type feel, there is the Fischer RC4 WC RC 16m@ 175, or the new Fischer Progresser, which is a wider bodied version of the RC4 WC RC.
Fischer has the new "Heat" and 'Fire" lines this season (of which the RX-8 is the only holdover).
http://www.fischerskis.com/en/

I'm partial toward Fischer skis but wish you luck with whatever you decide.
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post #3 of 16
9/18/07 at 3:26am
Consider the 2008 Fischer Progressor in a 175cm.

I have the 2007 WC SC with flowflex. Its a great ski, but not especially versatile.

The Progressor will have a similar feel to the SC, but will be more stable at speed and will tolerate loose snow.

Cheers,

Michael
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post #4 of 16
9/18/07 at 4:41am
I swear by the RC4 SL's. I'm 6'5" 270 and have them in a 166. I used to even ski them in a 156 length, and they could handle all I could dish out.

I absolutely love carving it up with them, leaving RR trax all over the place.
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post #5 of 16
9/18/07 at 5:54pm
Fischer RC4 WC RC or Fischer RC4 GS. I would go for the GS, but that's just me.

I weigh 165 lbs and have the RC4 SC in 165 cm. The SC is great for getting the short turn carving movements down, but it's maximum carving radius is a bit limiting. A nice GS radius ski with a race-ready ice grip that you can put the same movements through and rip carves at higher speeds with the same angles is how I spell fun.
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post #6 of 16
9/18/07 at 10:08pm
What don't you like about your SC's? Why do you want new skis? For what range of snow do want these skis? In what state or country do you usually ski?

I have SC's in 160cm, RC's in 175cm, and SL's in 161 cm, and I weigh 175 lbs. I prefer the SC's and and Sl's on ice and shallow corn. I prefer the RC's for wide groomers on uncrowded days. I prefer wider softer skis for softer and deeper snow. The SLs require excellent technique and powerful boots and are not versatile.

dt
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post #7 of 16
9/19/07 at 11:14am
I've been hearing very good reviews about the new Head Xenon 7.0. Go short, probably 165 cm for yourself. Alternately, the Head SuperShape or Fischer RX8.
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post #8 of 16
9/19/07 at 1:02pm
So many choices...
What are you looking for? For example wider with less sidecut to be more versatile for powder & crud, or another slalom carving ski?
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post #9 of 16
9/19/07 at 8:39pm
Thread Starter 
Sorry, I probably should have explained better.
I live in IL and have to drive an hour to Alpine Valley for a 400ft vertical. Given that, I definitely want something with a short turn radius that can tear up those short runs. The more turns the better. Versatility isn't an issue because it seems its always icy.

I really like my WC SC RC4's. I looking at new skiis b/c 170cm seems a tad too long for me. Also, the edges took a serious beating skiing in Utah last April. While I'm sure they're fine now I know their days are numbered. And I like buying new gear.
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post #10 of 16
9/19/07 at 11:15pm
I weigh 175lbs and I like the SC at 165cm but I ski big ski areas and I ski every day. You might prefer the SC in 160cm.

dt
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post #11 of 16
9/20/07 at 8:43am
If you like the WC SC except for the length, a new pair in 160cm should work well for you in the conditions you usually ski. The shorter length will give you better edge grip on hard snow. If you want a ski that is similar to the WC SC but a little more forgiving, the Fischer Race SC is a good choice. You could go with a 160 or 165.
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post #12 of 16
9/20/07 at 3:32pm
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Originally Posted by fishEH View Post
Sorry, I probably should have explained better.
I live in IL and have to drive an hour to Alpine Valley for a 400ft vertical. Given that, I definitely want something with a short turn radius that can tear up those short runs. The more turns the better. Versatility isn't an issue because it seems its always icy.

I really like my WC SC RC4's. I looking at new skiis b/c 170cm seems a tad too long for me. Also, the edges took a serious beating skiing in Utah last April. While I'm sure they're fine now I know their days are numbered. And I like buying new gear.
For small hills and the slower speeds and tighter turns that means, go for an RX8. I think that would be the RX8 "fire" these days.
(edit: I'm not saying you can't go fast on the RX8; I'm just saying it works better than an RC4 SC at slow speeds).
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post #13 of 16
9/20/07 at 3:42pm
Try the Fischer RX Hot Fire XTI It has the closest dimensions to the RC4
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post #14 of 16
9/20/07 at 4:48pm
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Originally Posted by RayCantu View Post
Try the Fischer RX Hot Fire XTI It has the closest dimensions to the RC4
What is the RX Hot Fire XTI? Its not in my 07/08 Fischer (US) catalog. Is it a newer addition to the line not covered in the catalog?
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post #15 of 16
9/20/07 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by fishEH View Post
And I like buying new gear.
You're going to fit in very well here.
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post #16 of 16
9/21/07 at 3:13pm
I found the Fischer RX Hot Fire FTI on Fischer's international web site. With dimensions 123-66-102 it appears to be based on the previous version of the WC SC. It is not in Fischer's US catalog and it's not on the Fischer US web site, so I expect that it's not available in the US. Too bad, looks like a fun ski.
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