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Volkl 6 Star Dilemma

post #1 of 8
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After demoing a pair of 161 cm 6 Stars out west under late season conditions 4-5 years back and loving them, I bought a pair for use here in the northeast but haven't enjoyed using 'em. So, I just bought a pair of Recons to use for trips out west and if the edgehold is sufficient for use here. My dilemma is: Should I try and sell the 6 stars or hold onto them as a back-up pair for specific conditions? A few pertinent points and questions related to the 6 Stars and Recons:

-I noticed the bases on the 6 stars are concave. So, I could get them to a shop for a 1 degree base bevel and see if that brings back the enjoyment I had when I first demo'd.
-I don't recall which year I bought the 6 Stars, but they have the bindings with the piston under the boot sole, not in front of the toe. Has anyone tried to ski the 6 star with the piston removed? If so, what was the effect?
-How have people found the Recons to hold on hard snow and ice? (I only demo'd them in fresh powder/crud conditions.) If they're sufficient on ice I'll use them as my all-around ski.

FYI, I'm 51, 150 pounds and been skiing for 40 years. In terms of skill, I'll claim that at one point 20 years ago I felt I was often among the best skiers on any hill on any particular day. Now, I ski too infrequently and am too cautious (how did that happen?) to claim to be any better than a lower expert. Before I get flamed that the 6 Stars are just too tough for someone like me, I've owned many skis over the years including World Cup race stock GS skis that I was VERY happy with--before they died. My displeasure with the 6 stars is basically that I need to be hyper-vigilant to stay on top of them; I want to relax when I ski. (But maybe it's the tune?)

Thanks for any feedback,
post #2 of 8
If you don't like the 6*s anymore, there's no point keeping them. I think you had to get them moving at a good clip before they feel like good skis. Maybe being too cautious prevents that. A one degree base-bevel might make them a little easier to relax on, you might want to try that first, but if you are not among the faster skiers on the hill, you should trade them in for something that works well at all speeds.
post #3 of 8
You pretty much described the 1st year of the 6*. Very demanding, but very rewarding.

A tune may help, but is still going to be as demanding as your described.

Demo some of the new skis in this category and I think you will find something more fun to ski. I replaced the pair below w/ a pair of Stockli Stormrider XL last year.

Do they look like these (03/04)? I'm pretty sure the piston was moved for 04/05.

post #4 of 8
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Yes, StormDay, that's them with the piston mid-sole. As I mentioned in my original post, I bought a pair of K2 Recons, which I'm sure will be my everyday ski. But on those days when I know the ice will be bad, I'm wondering whether to keep these in reseve.
post #5 of 8
I owned the first and second year of the 6* (175, then 168).

1) KEEP THEM! Wish I had kept mine.

2) You shouldn't have concave bases. Get them fixed. Even then the 6* will kick your ass when you get lazy. Which is a good thing, since your Recons won't.

3) 6* remains one of the best high speed ice/frozen death cookie carver I've ever used. Could ski 40- 50 mph on the 168's, frozen hardpack, still feel rock solid in the carve. 175's had no definable high end, but really tough in the bumps.

4) Use them for really hard days when your Recons whimper.
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Beyond: Yeah, I think I'll keep the 6 Stars for icy days, at least until I can assess whether the Recons will hold well enough. I AM still curious what the view is about Recon's ice hold. Any thoughts??? I guess I'll find out as soon as I can get out--probably with 2 degree bevel on the edges. Also, I noticed the 6 Star Marker bindings say "Piston Select" on them. Does that mean the piston can be disabled--that could help me arc the ski.
post #7 of 8
You may have the switch (look in front of the toe) to turn off the piston. If the piston is located between the toe and heel, likely. But I'd leave the piston on for most conditions, especially ice. IMO, the piston gives most Volks their feel (don't always like) and grip (definitely like). Don't think the mid-mount piston stiffens the ski that much, though, just dampens it a bit.

When they moved the piston way in front, it stiffened the shovel noticably, made them even better in crud and ice, but tougher to initiate and in bumps.
post #8 of 8
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Beyond: There's no switch on the 1200 Titanium bindings, so I'll leave them as is with a new tune. Actually, I'm looking forward to getting back on them detuned and play around. I just know there's potential there I haven't unlocked. (They were SOOO good when I demo'd them, from groomers to chop under the chair to bumps in the bowls.) Maybe I'm just old.
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