Originally Posted by Mac
Another thing to think about, Will. I'm going to let you in on a dirty little secret about western skiing. Contrary to what some people want you to think, it doesn't snow every day out there. Or every other day for that matter. In fact, over the last few seasons, I skied fifteen consecutive days in Utah and Colorado and never saw a flake of snow. I used to bring a pair of midfats with me when I traveled out west, and now the only ski I bring is a pair of 68mm waisted skis. It's very interesting that Utah based Peter Keelty, who posts hundreds of ski reviews every year at realskiers.com, and Harald Harb, who runs Harb Ski Systems in Colorado, both of whom have almost an unlimited assortment of skis at their disposal, both ski a 66mm waisted ski for everything short of heli-skiing. In fact, both of them have written articles about the merits of skiing narrower waisted skiis in powder, as well as some little known (or discussed) technical disadvantages that midfats present. The point I'm trying to make is that if you have your heart set on a pair of Volkl's, and you are proficient enough technically to be skiing on slalom boards now as your everyday ski, than maybe you should grab a pair of the Allstars, which would be far and away the best choice of all the skis mentioned here as an everyday ski east of the Rockies, and perhaps just rent a pair of fat boards on the all too few occassions that they really are a necessity for next year in UT. A far cheaper option than buying the wrong pair of skis.
Powder terrain is so desolate and vast that if your couldnt find untrack powder snow out there you would have to blind or it a really bad year.
the OP would best be served in my opinion by the stiffest 65-72mm waisted ski in midwest but he leaving the midwest for an ENTIRE winter in utah. If he gets gotamas he wont ever go back to michigan for a winter anyways.
So you living in utah for this season? that is pretty ******* rad.
Dont listen to anyone here and get something big and fat and alot longer than anything you have ever skied on. something below 170cm is way too short a "one ski quiver" in utah. When you come out your eventual friend will ridcule for being on short skinny sticks, unless you can keep up.....you wont be able to though cause your skis will be too short, to skinny, and to turny to keep up with you new friend from vermont who is killin it on on some retarded fat ski you were now wishing you had bought. I dont care if your the best racer in the state you will hate life on skinny skis at powder mountain.
So this is the bushwacker recommended ski list for you some kid named will who is about to move to utah and never go back to michigan(trust me you wont)
177 - Volkl Bridge the skinniest shortest ski you should even consider, stil an awesome ride though.
179 - K2 Seth - easy going fat ski that lacks alittle in Crud, powder will become really easy.
183 - Volkl Gotama - ski does it all ski groomers almost as good as the bridge better than the Seth and kills it off trail, powder skiing at speed you will feel like you should be in TGR next film.
183 - Volkl Katana - better at speed,powder and in crud than the gotama. also quicker turning offpiste due to more float, lacks alittle on groomers. not "fun" like the gotama or bridge or seth.
181 - Atomic Thug - super easy to ski on super fat big mountain twin tip, lacks on groomers but one word FLOAT.
I skied a 185 days last year in utah, so I may alittle bit better source than the posters in this thread.
reverse camber skis would be at home at powder mountain but any of them couldn't be a nice one ski quiver at powder, lack of camber hurts when the snow isnt 3-D.
Another option is too wait to you get out here and see if you can demo some stuff.
When you get how PM either me or Tromano, between us we have quite extensive quiver that I am sure we would be willing to let you borrow a ski for a day or 2.
The ski you could try
179cm Public Enemies
183cm Volkl Gotama
184cm Volkl Mantra
192cm Atomic Thugs
183cm Head IM103....hella stiff stoked to steal them off tim for a day or too
188cm Noridica Beast
I am sure something in our quiver will work and you will be much better off trying out here.
also ask this question over here...
they will flame you, and try to turn you away but the best info on the internet for where you are going be skiing on what you should be skiing is on that site, not this site full of arm chair quarterbacks, groomer loves and hacks.
Oh yeah BTW Harold Harb is a tool, and I know tons of not as technically proficient skier as him who could kick his butt on "real" terrain just because they have more open mind about what skis should be on their feet.