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M.A. of emulating skiing with inline skate

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having recieved some comments about my skiing i put the advise into actual use. not on skis yet, but on inline skate on mildly steep road.

welcome to comment and advise.


for those who checked my skiing and skating video before please check if i have put the following into the new animation.

1. body counter rotation at turn initiation
2. outside ski dominance at turn initiation and thereafter
3. keep even loading on lower_C
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Dissclaimer, Im no rollerblading expert but since nobody else has given it a shot, here is my 2cent..... I dont remember your original vid but this looks good. Im not able to see if you have sufficient pressure on outside ski or if your loding on the lower C is even but something I do see very clearly is that you have no counter at turn initiation. Which is a good thing . You are making short turns and your upper body is facing down hill, correct. This means that as you finish your turn at transition your countered stance turns into so called antisipation. You ski into antisipation at transition when your counter suddenly becomes antisipatin (a matter of definition) and then you ski into counter as your body squares up at the fall line and gradually becomes counter. Nice. Exactly the way its supposed to happen. If you wanted to have counter at turns upper C then you would have to turn your upper body facing uphill. This stance is called "upside down". Then it would be smart to square up at transition and forget to face downhill all the time. We would be talking bigger turns.

However, you should try to stay a little bit lower at transition. This way you could extend a little more out into the turn and dont be afraid to lean into the turn with your upper body after the transition, inclination, because in the next moment you apply angulation as you come through the fall line and you get something that is called a "short pressure". This helps you hold an edge and gives you rebound and speed. Hope this helped.
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I can't view this for some reason.
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I see you worked on your hands. I still see the instinct to drop them but your correction takes most of that out of your skating. Did you notice by quieting down your hands the fore / aft and lateral balancing movements are easier?

Getting even picker I would say continue to quiet them down by keeping a little more functional tension in the arms and hands. Grip the pole throughout the touch / swing and never, never show the back of your hand to the downhill camera.
In the past we would talk about an active lower body and a calm upper body. Somehow that evolved into a relaxed and inactive upper body, not sure why but we need some tension to facilitate quick, minor corrections.

So much has already been written about the legs in other threads that I hesitate to say much about them. With the following exception...
...experiment with the inside edge of the inside skate more. Try to get that leg (knee) even more out of the way by turning the whole leg towards the inside of the turn. It will draw you into the turn but resist the temptation to release the pressure on the outside skate by placing too much pressure on the inside skate. Weight bearing is the job of the outside leg. Some pressure is needed to keep the inside skate engaged but it varies so much that giving you an exact number seems counter productive. Keep in mind the different roles for each leg and you will get the proper balance instinctively.

When you are more comfortable with the new feeling, add more turning with both legs if you want to close the radius of the turn.
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justanotherskipro - thank you for your comment and advise. coincidently i am looking at ways to improve my inside leg. i have another thread open just on this topic. i ll try out your advise on snow very soon.
tdk6 - thanks for giving life to my topic or i ll never get any reply on this odd MA. seriously before i get a feeling on how close inline is to skiing i didnt aware that it is possible to try out moves with inline. it is less effective, but safer.
- inclination is a little bit over my current skill level. but as always, i ll give it a try. thanks for giving the kind comment too.
BigE - no hurry, next time, i ll post full video on youtube for you.
- your advise had contributed to the most important improvements over my previous video.
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Originally Posted by carver_hk View Post
coincidently i am looking at ways to improve my inside leg.
I would invite you to explore solutioning what you want from the inside leg by engaging the inside foot more effectivly. The image shown by the inside leg is a reflection of what the inside foot is doing (or not doing?)

Your inside thigh is pointing toward the outside of the arc. This leg posture reflects a passive inside foot that is not actively engaged and leading around the arc, just doing the minimum to stay out of the way.

When the inside foot is really actively engaged, the lower leg shafts will show a more parallel relationship and result in the inside thigh pointing at that foot's little toe edge (just as the outside thigh points to it's big toe edge).

Try to create and feel continous dynamic foot tension either by rolling that inside foot toward the little toe edge, or rolling it's big toe up if that perspective better relates to you. I would advise against any final outcome goal of 'turning the leg' but instead learning to allow it to turn in response to the activity of the inside foot. However, as a learning process you may have to first cause the leg to point more inside to overide a blocking habit of it pointing outside.

First cause to learn, then learn to allow.

When your insde foot is active, you will feel it pulling you around the arc, when it is not you will feel the outside foot pushing you around the arc.

When you get this really working well the intensity of the rolling of the inside foot will become your controlling input of how tight you turn. You will then be able evolve to primaraly balancing with the outside half of the body while it easilly follows the actively leading inside half, powered from the foot up.
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Arcmeister - Thanks for the advise. I'll try that out and tell what do I get.
- I have another MA in the PMTS site. I like to invite you to check it out too.
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It is no longer 1989. There is no need to make a 1.7MB animated GIF.

Please post video if you are going to post video.
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
It is no longer 1989. There is no need to make a 1.7MB animated GIF.

Please post video if you are going to post video.
Thank you for hinting me the important milestones of computer technology. Honously I should have kept up with the industry.
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