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Telluride Black Iron Bowl

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Looks like they haven't updated their map yet, but it's the area surrounded by the yellow closed lines.
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Telluride has been opening this terrain to the public in the spring the past 2 years.

It's nice to see them attempt a winter opening. Quality terrain.

Here are some pictures of the terrain from last April.

http://www.firsttracksonline.com/boa...pic.php?t=3115
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Yeah I know its been open.

The Telluride Website has to one of the least updated sites around.
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Originally Posted by Alpinord View Post
Looks like they haven't updated their map yet, but it's the area surrounded by the yellow closed lines.
Actually, it's not the area in the yellow closed signs -- instead it's the area in the 'guided' zone. The other closed areas are sever avalanche zones along Gold Hill.

It is a lot larger than how it's represented on the artist map.
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Originally Posted by stanton View Post
Yeah I know its been open.

The Telluride Website has to one of the least updated sites around.
Plenty of mountains do not show their 07/08 expansions, including:

Vail
Beaver Creek
Deer Valley
Heavenly
ABasin
etc
post #7 of 21
My bad, thanks for the clarification. I assumed since there were lots of tracks towards Gold Hill, the area between from below Palmyra was part of what they were opening.,,,and since they mentioned up to a 30 minute hike. (Definitely, harder to do avy control).

I'm not sure this is true either, but I've been told that Genvieve and La Rosa are the steepest runs at Telluride. One thing that to also realize, that after the steep sections there is a much longer runout to the lift. Regardless, the views alone are worth the hike and the ride up Prospect Lift.

FWIW, here's a kid shot (after skiing Confidence) with a glimpse of Palmyra behind left and what I believe is the south easterly (?) limit of the 'Guided Area' behind right:

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It is the small "guided" yellow area shown on the map, but the map is really a bad respresentation. It is rocky chutes and not an all white snowy area, except for the Corner Chute on the left edge. This is where they held the Telluride leg of the extreme skiing series last year. If you go on TGR there is video of some of the competitor's runs. It has some sweet steep shots, but it is a long snooze of a flat run out down Prospect Bowl (locally know as "Prospect Plate") back to the lift. Unfortunately this part of the area has a sad combination of the steepest skiing combined with the flattest, with the steep part being less than a dozen turns.
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Originally Posted by mudfoot View Post
It is rocky chutes and not an all white snowy area, except for the Corner Chute on the left edge. It has some sweet steep shots, but it is a long snooze of a flat run out down Prospect Bowl (locally know as "Prospect Plate") back to the lift.
It's better than that. It's a solid 1000 vertical foot drop and there are a lot of skiable routes in this area.

The issue is the 20-30 min hike at 12,000+ elevation. The unacclimated will feel the burn.












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[quote=chrisc;758335]It's better than that. It's a solid 1000 vertical foot drop and there are a lot of skiable routes in this area.

The issue is the 20-30 min hike at 12,000+ elevation. The unacclimated will feel the burn.QUOTE]

I may be wrong, but I don't think they are going to open it to the public all the way to the Corner Chute (your last picture). I hope you are right, but I would be suprised if you could get a 1,000 vert of steep skiing, although it'll certainly be a lot more than a "dozen turns." I have skied Genvieve many times and you can get to it by skating without taking your skis off, after that it is a pretty steep climb up the ridgeline. In any event, it'll make skiing that lift a little more attractive. That aspect is more north facing than Gold Hill, so the rocks should hold the snow much better. Whatever they open, it'll still be an easier climb than up Gold Hill before they put the chain in.
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Originally Posted by mudfoot View Post
I may be wrong, but I don't think they are going to open it to the public all the way to the Corner Chute (your last picture). I hope you are right, but I would be suprised if you could get a 1,000 vert of steep skiing, although it'll certainly be a lot more than a "dozen turns."
The Corner Chute you are referring to is known as Mountain Quail. This entire ridge has been open to the public the past 2 years during the end of the season (mid March - early April). I've skied it multiple times. My pics are from here. There are a lot lines in this area, especially as the base accumulates.

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That aspect is more north facing than Gold Hill, so the rocks should hold the snow much better.
The snow is quality is much better due to its northern exposure and Palmyra Peak blocking a lot of solar exposure. This area also gets great blow-in since it sits on the lee side of winds from the SW.

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Whatever they open, it'll still be an easier climb than up Gold Hill before they put the chain in.
It's similar to the old Gold Hill hike. Both hikes start (or started) at 11,800 and top out at 12,250. About the same vertical gain. There was more distance though in the Gold Hill hike.
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Here are a few more pics from the area.



Start of hike























post #13 of 21
this looks like great stuff - thanks for the post
post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by chrisc View Post
The Corner Chute you are referring to is known as Mountain Quail. This entire ridge has been open to the public the past 2 years during the end of the season (mid March - early April). I've skied it multiple times. My pics are from here. There are a lot lines in this area, especially as the base accumulates.
Crisc, thanks for the great info!

What is the runout like from Mt. Quail? Do you end up in a hole, or is it a traverse over to the runs under the chair?
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I swear that stuff was closed when I was there last January...(the stuff off to skiers right of the sign in that one picture where y'all started your hike)...I coulda sworn it said I needed a guide. Or maybe I just got back there too late in the day and they'd already closed it. Don't rightfully remember. But I'm with you on the Prospect Bowl run-out...it gets hella flat hella fast.
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Crisc, thanks for the great info!

What is the runout like from Mt. Quail? Do you end up in a hole, or is it a traverse over to the runs under the chair?
Of course you cannot avoid the flats completely in the Prospect Chair area. You exit the Mt. Quail/Black Iron area about half way down the chair 12 pod. I generally carve my own path down the creek bed (skier's right) of the established trail system - but this might be out-of-bounds in future use. I am most interested in exploring some of the more technical lines.

Overall, the area provides glimpses of some spectacular alpine terrain that Telluride - and most of Colorado - lack. Telluride has approval for a lift in this zone to end below Palmyra Peak starting at the flats. Baby steps...

It will be interesting how quickly patrol will be able to open this area after significant snow.

Seasonally, Mountain Quail should be able to open relatively early since it is an obvious funnel for snow. However some of the steeper lines will not be good till Feb. You could describe the coverage of the Subaru Freeskiing event in early February as boney.
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I swear that stuff was closed when I was there last January...(the stuff off to skiers right of the sign in that one picture where y'all started your hike)...I coulda sworn it said I needed a guide.
This is correct. Like I said, it's been open on a limited basis in spring.

Patrol was learning control activities and with a stable spring snow pack, why not reward locals?
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Yeah. Those are some quality lines up there....with natural selection 1.5 hr+ hike @ 12-13k weeding people out.
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Palmyra Peak to open this season.

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A month after opening a half-dozen new runs of hike-to terrain in the Prospect Basin, Telluride Ski and Golf has upped its ante. Last week, the resort unveiled plans to open the craggy Palmyra Peak to skiers looking for unreal turns down the sheer face of the 13,320-foot mountain.
Opening Palmyra adds 200 acres and 2,000 new vertical feet of steep and pure unguided hike-to terrain. It’s a peak that offers mammoth drops, 50-degree chutes, couloirs as skinny as a pig trough and endless views of the Telluride region.
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I just got back from Telluride. Fantastic trip .

Dave's Blogg has some great pictures with all the new terrain.

http://blog.tellurideskiresort.com/b...g/default.aspx
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