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post #31 of 47
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
Also, if it's too early for corn, the good news is that Silverado will probably still be open. In my opinion, Silverado has steeps to match KT-22, without the crowds to spoil it. If I were only allowed to ski one lift for a full day at Squaw, Silverado would be it.
Agree - Silverado is usually a great untapped resource. If you are there on a weekend, just skate/hike a bit (follow your curiousity) and you'll avoid crowds. Just make sure you don't get cliffed out.

Also, the weather usually isn't a major issue if you're heading to Tahoe for a week, i.e. if it's windy hit Homewood for a day & Squaw the next day. For example, my friends came in from Minn last year, and spent the first 2 days in the middle of an 8' dump unable to ski the first day because it was too stormy (not a typo - 8' in two days), and the next 2 days in heaven...
post #32 of 47
I've only been to Squaw a few times but my impressions are there's some steep stuff, plenty of expert and usually (last year notwithstanding) tons of snow. The point about being in Tahoe is a good one too, but taking that out of the picture Utah has a lot as well.

During a storm it's hard to explain what it's like in Tahoe - ask the Donner party, it ate them up . They get absolutely killed sometimes up there with dumps. OK OK enough puns ... they can get a lot in a short period. Some of the snow removal equipment is kind of unique too. Tahoe certainly has the rep for heavier snow (more water laden) than Utah, but that has some advantages too (sticks to the steeps and stays in place usually). For some reason they don't seem to have all the avvie issues Utah does, probably due to the heavier more stable snow pack.

It's a tough call but I think you got to do it at some point because Tahoe is special.

While you're there, I too like Alpine almost as much. Northstar, which some call flatstar actually has some steep stuff they opened on the north side in the past several years. Heavenly has Motts and Killebrew canyons for steeps and nice views of the lake on the other side (as does Alpine). If you can get to Kirkwood I think they usually get the most snow but the road closes in weather. There are a dozen or so resorts up there worth seeing in a good snow year. I always wanted to ski Mt Rose chutes, haven't got there yet.
post #33 of 47

Squaw

Alpinedad is correct, a great sleeper area is Silverado. When Shirley Lake, Gold Coast are skied out and a little crowded (or a lot crowded i.e., weekends) Silverado can be good. Sometimes has some good snow (N facing). Do watch out for the cliffs however-you'll see them if youre paying attentipn to where you're going.
post #34 of 47
Agreed with others' caution on the cliffs at Silverado. Even more than most places, unless you're on the one groomer (Tram Bowl), you don't want to mach down a line you haven't skied already, or at very least scoped seriously from the lift. My methodology is typically to take my first run down Tram Bowl, stopping every so often to look up to my left at the conditions in the various chutes, then get whatever info I can from the lift ride up.

Another sleeper at Squaw is Broken Arrow, an old fixed grip YAN double that was moved in 1989 to serve an area that previously had been accessible only by hiking. Not much vertical, and a slow lift, but you can get a sense of the terrain from some of Scott Gaffney's movies.
post #35 of 47

Try Squaw

I've been to both. I hit Snowbird on 2 of the best snow days I've ever seen (60" in 48 hours) in March 2002.

I went to Squaw for one day last April in one of the worst snow years in recent memory for the Tahoe area. It still rocked. The best spring skiing I've ever experienced! There is an incredible variety of steeps there. We skied Siberia, Headwall, KT22 and then Granite Chief chairs. We never skied the same line twice and had a great time. I thought the coverage was pretty sweet even though the consensus was "it sucked".

I think a critical thing for us right-coasters is the elevation/altitude (elevation is ground, altitude is the atmosphere). Squaw's base is much lower than the Bird's. I was not in great shape last year and I had no trouble skiing a whole day at Squaw. I generally have to call it a day by about 2pm at the LCC resorts or the Summit County areas because of the lack of O2.

I love variety....I'd rather ski 6 places in 6 days than spend 6 days exploring every nook and cranny of one resort. Take that as a caveat for my recommendation.
post #36 of 47
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
Another sleeper at Squaw is Broken Arrow, an old fixed grip YAN double that was moved in 1989 to serve an area that previously had been accessible only by hiking. Not much vertical, and a slow lift, but you can get a sense of the terrain from some of Scott Gaffney's movies.
I think this is my favorite section at Squaw since it is so off the radar and gets an honest 2000' vert.
post #37 of 47
Y'know, you guys could've saved a little, tiny secret...yeah, well, anyway, since you outed it, Broken Arrow is good, but you have to hit it early because it gets hit by the sun all A.M.
post #38 of 47
It's an entire lift, Dino. Hard to keep it a real secret.
post #39 of 47

Squaw

Theres a secret at Squaw? Only one I remember, was blonde......oh well thats another story.
post #40 of 47

I'm with ya'

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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
It's an entire lift, Dino. Hard to keep it a real secret.
yeah, you're right, I should've added an emocon; Broken Arrow just usually "hides" in plain sight...("Hey, where's that lift go? Dunno, looks pretty short though...")

Speaking of secrets, back in the day there were a lot of "Lebanese blondes" lurking when the old gondola, err club car, was operating...
post #41 of 47
"Lebanese blondes"?
post #42 of 47
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
"Lebanese blondes"?
Hashish if my 70's teenage years recall correctly
post #43 of 47
Pete, you really missed the Silverado chair, those 8 gates are really some thing and the Silverado area is open for back country skiing like.
post #44 of 47
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg View Post
I guess you missed the wink at the end....Vail is my home mountain and I don't spend much time on the frontside. I just thought I'd get the standard Vail bashing started early in an effort to keep the crowds down:
Good job then!!
post #45 of 47
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Originally Posted by Dino View Post
yeah, you're right, I should've added an emocon; Broken Arrow just usually "hides" in plain sight...("Hey, where's that lift go? Dunno, looks pretty short though...")

Speaking of secrets, back in the day there were a lot of "Lebanese blondes" lurking when the old gondola, err club car, was operating...
let me understand pre-birth slang

Lebanese blond = hash??
post #46 of 47
here's the wiki on lebanese blond: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_Blonde_%28drug%29
the old gondolas were small, i.e. club cars. we had a lot of fun in those (see, also: Hot Dog: The Movie) the early '80's were fun: no real knowledge of the AIDS epidemic, less stringent drunk driving laws, etc. come to think of it, we should just be glad we survived...
post #47 of 47
Pete knows his way around Tahoe from what I've read in a few threads. I'd rate Mt. Rose with Sugar Bowl when the Chutes are open.
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