Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier
I think what Max is trying to convey here is not that rotary is the only movement used to turn these skis, but rather (Max correct me if I am wrong) is that rotary is the first movement that is used to turn the skis with edging applied after the rotational movements. In short, the turns are initiated with rotation instead of tipping the ski onto it's edge, which may be the difference that Max is describing. If a turn is not initiated with tipping the ski onto it's edge and is initiated with a rotational movement is it still a carve of any form?
Read the whole thread Heluva....
This debate, on my side at least has nothing to do with rotary vs. carving....Max only took it there....to avoid that debate, as it is really getting old, I simply asked the question is this skier...and to be even simplier the skier in blue jacket after the girl talks...getting ski performance....Max says no.
Max goes on to say, it is rotary based skiing, thus no ski performance....if no ski performance, then my next question is what drives the COM and especially the BOS back and forth so dynamically? Max says "lots of rotary"......oh brother....
That level of defleciton is a key sign of one thing...ski performance...ski performance is derived from one thing...effecting edging....(and yes of course all the things that go with it...)
Just a tip...a few people have stated this already....SVMM is pretty standard high performance skiing....the question that would be intresting, is what is the SVMM progression.....the "final form" is nothing new at all.
Another point...the video only shows 3 skiers...blue jacket guy, white jacket guy, and black jacket guy...and a girl talks, but i do not believe we see her ski. Now I could be wrong here, but I am pretty sure the white jacket guy is Dale Begg-Smith...current Olympic mogul champion, Canadian by nationality, trains in Australia, hence he has nothing to do with SVMM, I think the intent there was to show WC technique, then show how it came be "tamed a bit" and applied to everyday skiing. The key demo of this, which to me is SVMM is the blue jacket guy...black jacket skis ok, but no where near the same skill level, at least not what is shown in that video...to say we need to look at him to judge the merrits of SVMM is like saying we should look at video of you skiing and use it to judge the merrits of PMTS...