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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
I'm from NY, and usually ski locally at Windham which is about 2 1/2 hours away. Once a season, I like to ski at a real place. That has been Stratton...I am thinking about Stowe.
Does it blow away Stratton, and what do most of you feel about it.
post #2 of 26
If you're an advanced/expert skier - Yes.

If you're mainly like to ski intermediate terrain, then there's not that much difference, IMO.

Oh yeah, Go Jets. :

[ December 03, 2003, 08:33 PM: Message edited by: Carvemeister ]
post #3 of 26
You skied at Stratton ? wow you must have lots of money. I here they priced there single day lift tickets so high that it makes more sence to buy a multi-day ticket. I guess that's fine if you have a cheap place to stay over night.

Enough of that.

Stowe is a great mountain. If your at a strong level 7 skier you will be able to enjoy most of the terrain with confidance. Stowe is worth the trip. It is much better then Stratton.

At Stowe I like to park in the lot above the Red Gondola barn and use the Lodge. They have great Cinnamon Rolls.
post #4 of 26
Stowe is way better than Stratton in every way. Even the restaurants are better.
Look me up when you are at Windham.

Regrds, John
post #5 of 26
Quote:
Posted by Rich Kotite: Once a season, I like to ski at a real place.
I want to ski at the Unreal places that you ski. I'm tired of the real ones.
post #6 of 26
Quote:
Originally posted by RichKotite:
I'm from NY, and usually ski locally at Windham which is about 2 1/2 hours away. Once a season, I like to ski at a real place. That has been Stratton...I am thinking about Stowe.
Does it blow away Stratton, and what do most of you feel about it.
It is so much fun skiing different mountains and staying different places (if you stay overnight) that I try to ski them all. Especially where in Vermont, there are so many good places that are fairly close together.

Try Okemo too, and SugarBush and Killington and Mt. Snow.

35 years ago when I was a boy I had a goal to ski all of the VT and NH areas. I never did ski them all, but I skied a lot of them. Stratton was a great area back then too. I also enjoyed Magic, which is looking pretty run down when I stopped there on my motorcycle this summer.

My favorite Diners goes right along with my favorite waitresses and my favorite ski areas and my favorite roads in Vermont. Try DOTs diner in Wilmington VT. (on Rt100 just below Mt Snow) tell Laura that Steve the crazy motorcycle guy sent you.. she'll know.

If you drive up in daylight, get of Rt 91 and get on Rt100 and enjoy the majestic state of Vermont. part of the joy of New England skiing has got to be appreciating the wonderful little towns and villages and restaurants and B&Bs and majestic scenery.

Here's another idea. Take Rt 91 to Wells River Vermont. Stay at the Wells River Motel. (tell Diane that Steve sent you! she'll know..) $65 bucks a night for a cute litle room in a great little town. Eat breakfast at the P&H Truck Stop and have the French Toast. Then take Rt 302 over to Bretton Woods or Loon and ski NH for the day, next day go west and ski Stowe or Sugarbush.

Enjoy it all!!
post #7 of 26
If you think Stratton (or Flatten as I like to call it) is a real area you will either be blown away by stowe, like any normal person would, or you'll be totally dissapointed because you have a skewed view of skiing that makes you think Stratton is a good place.

Since you're from New York, you might want to try Mount Snow if you're a total moron or Killington if you think you're better than everyone else.

Ok, I apologize, but you left yourself wide open, I had to take the opportunity. All kidding aside, my guess is you consider Stratton a real mountain because it has a decent vertical drop, good lifts, great grooming, good snowmaking, a lot of trails, and swank condos. If those are the only things you're after, you might also want to consider Okemo as it has all the things you mentioned less the super swank condos, but it also has a much better variety of trails and terrain and some that are steeper. Stratton in my opinion is so homogeneous and flat. You could ski 3 trails and essentially ski the whole mountain.

Now, if you're looking for a REAL mountain go to Stowe, Jay Peak, or Sugarbush. Challenging terrain, natural snow, and great variety. You don't have to be good to enjoy these places either.

As a side note, I really have nothing against New Yorkers (except during baseball playoffs), I may even move there some day. As long as the morons stay at Mount Snow and the snobs stay at Stratton, I can deal with the cockiness at Killington. With the name Rich Kotite, I can tell you're into sports and have a sense of humor (unless you're actually Rich, in which case, I apologze for that remark), so you're an ok New Yorker in my book.
post #8 of 26
Stowe...my favorite east coast destination. I just hope I feel that way after all of the scheduled "improvements" take place.I have been skiing there since the single chair days.My advice is get there quick before it becomes MT Anywhere.
post #9 of 26
shmerham:

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Since you're from New York, you might want to try Mount Snow if you're a total moron or Killington if you think you're better than everyone else.

Ok, I apologize, but you left yourself wide open, I had to take the opportunity. All kidding aside, my guess is you consider Stratton a real mountain because it has a decent vertical drop, good lifts, great grooming, good snowmaking, a lot of trails, and swank condos. If those are the only things you're after, you might also want to consider Okemo as it has all the things you mentioned less the super swank condos, but it also has a much better variety of trails and terrain and some that are steeper. Stratton in my opinion is so homogeneous and flat. You could ski 3 trails and essentially ski the whole mountain.
Dude, you seem to know these resorts really well for someone who finds them so objectionable. And whats with the attitude? I have always found Mainers to be friendly, mellow folk.

RK: I am not a fan of Stratton, and have only recently started liking Killington (go on non-holiday weekdays and do Pico on weekends) Stowe is my favorite. And if I lived where you do I would pass S.Vermont by every time. I still haven't tried Smuggs and Jay yet, but I hear they are great too.

And if your a married guy like myself you WILL want to maintain her happiness, and while I agree that there is more advanced terrain at Stowe, there is enough easier terrain to keep her happy, not to mention a nice town to explore.

[ December 04, 2003, 11:40 AM: Message edited by: snowflier ]
post #10 of 26
Who said his wife sucks at skiing?



I agree that Stratton is over rated and expensive for what it is. I went there once and that will be the last time.

Okemo is a good bet if you want fun intermediate terrain and alot of trails. You do have to deal with crowds on the weekend.

Pico is a simple, cheap, great place to ski on Weekends.

I am going to try Stowe this year now that I think I can handle the terrain and have fun.
post #11 of 26
I was really friendly until I left Maine to live in Upstate New York for 4 years. That was reason enough to turn me into an a$$hole, let alone the fact that I was forced to ski southern Vermont. Can you find it in your heart to forgive me?

Co-sign on Pico. I skied boottop powder there 2 days after a storm. One of my best ski days ever. Great New England trails served by a high speed quad and no New Yorkers, hehe.
post #12 of 26
I've always loved Stowe. Great terrain for anyone intermediate and above and it really shines for the advanced skier. If you know where to look there are some great spots in the woods. One of my pet peeves is a lift system designed so you always feel like your riding up or getting to another lift. You never get that at Stowe.

The town itself is quaint Vermont postcard stuff, with a some great places to eat and good bars.
post #13 of 26
Quote:
Originally posted by shmerham:

Since you're from New York, you might want to try Mount Snow if you're a total moron or Killington if you think you're better than everyone else.

>I fail to see the corollations you've made here.

Ok, I apologize, but you left yourself wide open, I had to take the opportunity.

>And he left himself open how? By being from NY? Okaaaaayyyy.

All kidding aside, my guess is you consider Stratton a real mountain because it has a decent vertical drop, good lifts, great grooming, good snowmaking, a lot of trails, and swank condos.

>Gee, and these things don't push it into the real mountain category, as compared to Ski Windham?

Now, if you're looking for a REAL mountain go to Stowe, Jay Peak, or Sugarbush. Challenging terrain, natural snow, and great variety. You don't have to be good to enjoy these places either.

>No, if you want a REAL mountain, go out to Colorado or Utah. Probably not an option for you living in mom's basement.

As a side note, I really have nothing against New Yorkers (except during baseball playoffs),

>Great, so since this is a ski forum, and no one here's currently playing baseball SHUT YER PIE HOLE!

I may even move there some day.
>Please, don't. We don't need ANOTHER moron.
post #14 of 26
There is no place like STOWE. I’ve been going there since I was in high school. Graduate school poverty forced me to drop out of skiing between 1991 and 1999 but the first place I skied when I got back into the sport was Stowe. One snowy day in December 1999, my wife asked me if I skied. I said yes but not in quite a few years. She said, “I want to go skiing.” I said, “Ok, let’s go to Stowe.” A few weeks later we were on the road to Stowe. When we got there, my wife (who grew up skiing small village slopes in Slovakia), said, “Wow, that’s a BIG, BIG mountain.” I said, “You wanted to go skiing didn’t you?” We spent the first day skiing Toll Road. The next day, we headed over to the gondola to ski Perry Merrill. Going from Toll Road to Perry Merrill is a big jump but she handled it with grace, even the double fall line at the first turn. From Perry Merrill, we skied Lord, Gondolier, Sterling, North Slope, Standard, Smugglers, and even Upper Nose Dive. It was a great week of skiing for her even though her skills at the time were lower intermediate at best. We avoided the FRONT FOUR but we still had an excellent time.

Stowe does not offer a lot of gimmicks, but the terrain is awesome. It’s classic New England skiing. Ski good or eat wood. But an intermediate can have a blast there—especially midweek. The restaurants are good too-best in the East.
post #15 of 26
>>> Stowe does not offer a lot of gimmicks, but the terrain is awesome. It’s classic New England skiing. Ski good or eat wood. But an intermediate can have a blast there—especially midweek. The restaurants are good too-best in the East. <<<

The gimmick at Stowe used to be the warm up "over the head" quilted blankets they had at the base. Anyone remember those?You threw a couple of those on before going up to stay warm. It's got to be one of the coldest mountains to ski, but those quilts were a great gimmick and they didn't do that elsewhere.
post #16 of 26
Yeah, I remember blankets at Stowe... and the old single chair. I think the blankets and the chair went hand in hand. I haven't skied Mad River since the early '80s but they were handing out blankets there then. (must be a single chair thing)
post #17 of 26
MAD RIVER GLEN
SKI IT IF YOU CAN

As "real" as it gets on the east coast
post #18 of 26
>I fail to see the corollations you've made here.

Mount Snow on a weekend is like walking around the mall at christmas time, but with ski boots on and skis over your shoulder. Nobody has any idea what they're doing. People are bumping into each other. Skiing over other people's skis. Crashing. It's a real mess. It's partly a design problem. The sheer volume of people who are completely clueless, but think they know what they're doing (and they're not yokels by the way) certainly doesn't help the situation though. Killington is a zoo, but the people who ski there do know what they're doing. You just have to deal with the cocky attitudes. While not omnipresent, they're not scarce by any means.

>Gee, and these things don't push it into the real mountain category, as compared to Ski Windham?

Well, one of the definitions of a mountain is that it has to have a minimum percent grade on 3/4 of it's area for a sustained vertical drop. I'm not positive of what that minimum percent is, but I'm willing to bet that it's greater than the steepest pitch found on Stratton, which I'm POSITIVE is less than 1%.

>No, if you want a REAL mountain, go out to Colorado or Utah. Probably not an option for you living in mom's basement.

There are only a few areas in Utah and Colorado with greater sustained steeps than you can find at some eastern areas. You should have said Wyoming or BC. I live on the 2nd floor of my Mom's place (it's my Dad's too), not the basement.

>Great, so since this is a ski forum, and no one here's currently playing baseball SHUT YER PIE HOLE!

Hey, somebody was talking about golf on this board. Should I tell them to shut their pie hole too?
post #19 of 26
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Carvemeister:
If you're an advanced/expert skier - Yes.

If you're mainly like to ski intermediate terrain, then there's not that much difference, IMO.

Oh yeah, Go Jets. :
post #20 of 26
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by Carvemeister:
If you're an advanced/expert skier - Yes.

If you're mainly like to ski intermediate terrain, then there's not that much difference, IMO.

Oh yeah, Go Jets. :
post #21 of 26
How about a double blanket day at Stowe? :

Used to be one of my favorites. They lost my loyalty when I booked (lodge and lift package), for the first week in April, the last family outing of the year, the deal was the Spring rates applied and you save a bunch for the four of us. I was feeling great since the snow was falling and the temps plunged ... till I went to get our tickets.

Stowe .... now a MEGA CORP .... upped the Spring rate back to the Winter rate .... BECAUSE IT SNOWED!

I don't ever remember them giving me a discount during a January thaw when I had to ski in slush.

Heck, "Stowe" is now just the northern end of the Long Island Expressway anyway. I'll bet there ain't a native within twenty miles of the place.

[ December 05, 2003, 06:45 PM: Message edited by: yuki ]
post #22 of 26
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Originally posted by RichKotite:
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If you're an advanced/expert skier - Yes.

If you're mainly like to ski intermediate terrain, then there's not that much difference, IMO.

Oh yeah, Go Jets. :
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post #23 of 26
Someone (not me) also brought up the topic on DCSki:

http://www.dcski.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000486.html

I don't know what us flatlanders know about skiing in VT but it may be worth a peak anyway.
post #24 of 26
Rich Kotite. We must kill you or at the very least sterilize you.
post #25 of 26
[quote]Originally posted by snowflier:
shmerham:

Quote:

And if your a married guy like myself you WILL want to maintain her happiness, and while I agree that there is more advanced terrain at Stowe, there is enough easier terrain to keep her happy, not to mention a nice town to explore.
NO YOU DI'INT!!!! :

"keep her happy"... OH DUDE... you're so fired for this post!!!

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kiersten
post #26 of 26
Really, how condescending to Assume wives just don't ski all that well.

Shame on you.
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