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post #31 of 36
Originally Posted by JRN View Post
I often ask students to describe their perfect, fantasy ski run in as much detail as possible. I encourage them to in no way limit their vision, especially not with regard to their current ability.
Fantastic idea!

thank you.
post #32 of 36
Originally Posted by BigE View Post

Are they not better off if you put them on the right path?
That's the idea of course. But putting someone on a path does not ensure that they will get to the right destination. The big problem with teaching one hour lessons is that there is no way to ensure that the student stays on the path all the way to the destination. Often times, after a lesson is over, students will do a U turn and return to where they started if they get frustrated with the "going backwards" phenomena.
post #33 of 36
I've been told NOT to make revisions I cannot complete or that will have no positive effect. There are times that I can't really do all that much.
post #34 of 36
Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho View Post
". Almost always, I first discuss with the student their expectations. This may be something simple like, " why'd ya take the class?" One lady stated, "keep up with my fiance." The lst half of class was spent accomplishing this goal and the afternoon class (she signed up for another with me after lunch) was spent on the goal of passing the guy. Something I notice and try to develope is a good initial and ongoing dialogue where we give and take on ideas, attitude, fears etc.

Initially getting a student to verbally state their immediate goal is helpful to the instructor fashioning he lesson to the person and then after some time together being able to see their potential and more importantly having the student see their potential and achieving at least part of that in the time frame given (lets work on that next time).
Nolo, I'm glad you started this. I'm a student so I read what the instructors are discussing on this forum. I returned to skiing last winter after decades off. I took 5 lessons. 4 were barely worth taking. The one that counted was the ONLY lesson where the instructor asked us our goals, not just that day's goal,but what/how we really wanted to ski. I was the lesser skilled of the international group. But the instructor that day made sure I reached my immediate goal, and definately assissted me with the skills I needed for my overall goals in skiiing. Just asking & discussing it/broadening it throughout the lesson makes all the difference in the world. Pete, Kudos to you for doing 1 of the most important things, communicating well with your students.
post #35 of 36
Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
I think that the real goal of the instructor would be to make the student feel better about themselves as they move into higher and higher levels of performance (encourage/reward real gains in performance); not just praising them in their current performance envelope without moving beyond it.


I feel great about myself. I don't need an instructor to do that. Most people don't. I & most go to an instructor to teach us skills that we don't have so we can get where we want to be. I appreciate an instructor pointing out a gain & reinforcing it by identifing when I'm doing it correctly if it's something that is new & I have no feeling for it yet.
But I really think a big key(from a students point of view) is for the instructor to find out what the student really wants & where (the path they are taking) they want to go. Then they can work on the things that will really get students somewhere. Questions that find out what's bothering me about my skiing or what I haven't quite grasped but am working on, or simply I'm ok with what I'm doing now but want to learn a whole lot more & see ALL of the mountain or outski the boyfriend, etc.
post #36 of 36


911Over, Thankyou. I teach a lot of beginners and lst timers. Making the maximum effort to communicate starts the process of "trust". Finding that if the new student trusts me that the lesson goes smoother, quicker, they learn better and don't become paralyzed with fear.

Obviously in your case this is n't necessary but still would work to establish a good instructor/student exchange. If a lesson can start with this ingrediant its' chances of sucess are a lot higher. I am real lucky in that I work only part time at a rather small/med hill that just doesn't have a lot of lessons. The ski school has me working weekdays because they have plenty of instructors on the weekends so have small classes and a lot of free skiing. Oh well, somebody has to do it.
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