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post #1 of 15
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Trying to buy a pair of these in Oz.

I skied on Salomon Pocket Rockets in Japan in Feb this year at Niseko........what an unbelievable ski. Does anybody still ski on these? What ski if any comes close to these?
Thanks in advance guys.
post #2 of 15
It depends upon which pockyrocky you skiied on. If it was the 175 then the new 1080 gun in 174 is very similar (although wider) OTH, the '08 1080 gun in 181 is vastly different than the Gun in 174.

SJ
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 

Pocket Rockets

A bit older...........these little beauties.........
post #4 of 15
The 05/06 Gun is almost identical to the pocket rocket in all lengths. I think you should be able to find a pair of those somewhere. However, I think the newer guns are likely an improvement. Not sure what size you need but

http://www.untracked.com/p584-06_sal...er_skis .html

And they ship to Oz.
post #5 of 15
Take a look at Armada ARV, in either a 175 or 185.

Very similar to the PRs, just a tiny bit stiffer, so they're still almost as forgiving, and WAY damper, so they're actually fairly stable, for how easy they are to ski.

Fun sticks.
post #6 of 15
I skied on PRs for several years and loved them for new snow conditions. Last season I tried a pair of Fischer Atuas and was completely sold. In fact I bought a pair the same day and gave the Solomons to my brother. They have all of the good features of the Rockets, great float, quick handling in tight situations, etc, but they hold an edge much better on the hard pack, handle much higher speeds without getting squirrley, and don't deflect in crud nearly as easily as the PRs. They are what the Pocket Rocket should be. I highly recommend them.
post #7 of 15
Those are the classic PR's. As mentioned, the '05-'06 (dark grey) is identical. The '06-'07 and '07-'08 1080 gun are a different ski but in the 174 the personality of the ski is very very close to the PR.

Caution.....the 181 is built very differently than the 174 is. It is much beefier and over 1/2 lb heavier per ski than the 174 is.

SJ
post #8 of 15
How does the current 1080 Foil compare to the classic PR. Dimensions are pretty close.
post #9 of 15
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
Those are the classic PR's. As mentioned, the '05-'06 (dark grey) is identical. The '06-'07 and '07-'08 1080 gun are a different ski but in the 174 the personality of the ski is very very close to the PR.

Caution.....the 181 is built very differently than the 174 is. It is much beefier and over 1/2 lb heavier per ski than the 174 is.

SJ
Jim:

Are you endorsing the 181 gun?

Is it more than just a new size between the 174 and 188?

What would you compare it to?

Did I ask enough questions?
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by Gotama View Post
Jim:

Are you endorsing the 181 gun?

Is it more than just a new size between the 174 and 188?

What would you compare it to?

Did I ask enough questions?
Just about enough........

I endorse lotsa things depending upon what somebody is looking for. I endorse the current softer skis very highly for some folks. Yes the 181 is a different critter. As a comparison, the weight difference between a 176 and 183 Gotama is less than 2 oz. The weight difference between the 174 and 181 Gun is 9 oz. The 181 is also almost 2mm thicker under the foot than the 174. (183 Gotama is 0.5mm thicker than the 176) This is clearly a different ski. I didn't get on it because there were no 181 samples available in the intro season.

Early on and without the benefit of on snow, the ski that it's closest to is the Gotama. The 181 Solly is 7 oz. heavier than the 183 Got. This might be a very good thing and might be notsogood depending upon what the weight is. (I suspect it's glass but I don't really know.

Solly is upping their game and they certainly know how to do that....they just haven't chosen to in recent years. Some new, stronger Sollies is a very good thing for the marketplace.

SJ
post #11 of 15
I concur with Maggot - kinda.

I've skied on a friend's PR's (185 - from 05, I believe) and have also skied some ARV's (also 185's - 06 model). Vey similar - the ARV was a teensy bit beefier feeling. HOWEVER - I wouldn't cite stability or the ability to handle speed as either of these skis strong suits - not by a long shot. They are pretty jittery at speed, both on and off the groomed.
post #12 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
Those are the classic PR's. As mentioned, the '05-'06 (dark grey) is identical. The '06-'07 and '07-'08 1080 gun are a different ski but in the 174 the personality of the ski is very very close to the PR.

Caution.....the 181 is built very differently than the 174 is. It is much beefier and over 1/2 lb heavier per ski than the 174 is.

SJ
Thanks for the prompt reply SJ( your knowledge is amazing)I actually skied both these skis the classic PR's first, which I preferred and the '05-'06(dark grey) the latter were a bit more wooden and not quite as exciting as the classic PR's, so I stuck with these for the rest of the week. My immediate thought was wow I have to have apair of these!!!


Ok so it looks like a compromise is needed here.....Fischer, Armada, anything else in the mix. I am 6' 2" 177 lbs (in American language)
Thanks Guys
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by Jer View Post
I concur with Maggot - kinda.

I've skied on a friend's PR's (185 - from 05, I believe) and have also skied some ARV's (also 185's - 06 model). Vey similar - the ARV was a teensy bit beefier feeling. HOWEVER - I wouldn't cite stability or the ability to handle speed as either of these skis strong suits - not by a long shot. They are pretty jittery at speed, both on and off the groomed.
Yea, but the ARVs get the nod from me. While neither ski is really stable, the ARVs seem a lot less skittery, while being almost as easy to ski. The tradeoff is minimal.
post #14 of 15
Daveski - My opinion is that if you have PR's or Guns then you should be a very happy person. I believe that the Pocket Rocket inspired a whole new crop of skis. This crop of wide and flexible powder skis is now twice as large in 2007-2008. The Pocket Rocket was, and is, popular with skiers... not so popular with the hard core crowd who hate to see more regular guys like me in their pow stashes.
post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Yes they like them in Niseko, Japan where I hired them. They had a good range from classic PR's to 1080's.
Don't tell anyone but Hokkaido gets some of the deepest powder you will find on the planet....cold winds across the Japan Sea from Siberia, it didn't stop snowing for the 7 days we were there. You could venture out any time of the day and find freshies.
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