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Advice on versatile freeride skis needed

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Well, well, I know the questions of this sort have already been asked so many times, but my situation is somewhat specific and rather untipical.
I ski about 30-40 days a year but only about 10 of them in the big mountains where freeride is existing reality.
The other 20-30 days I spend at a very small hil with no real freeride opportunity.
Now I want to buy new skis and am inclined towards some kind of freeride twintip. What I require is great versatility both off and on piste, ability to turn in tight spots and on the moguls and real ability to swim in the powder and not to sink in it.
I am now thinking about Rossignols Scratch BC WRS\Brigade (that is practically the same isn`t it?) and want to know your opinions about the length and any other thoughts.
I am 170lbs., 6` tall, level 7 aspiring to 8.
post #2 of 14
Do you need a real twintip? Do you ski in the park? Do you want firm snow carving ability?

The Scratch/Brigade are a really fun and versatile wider twintips, it would be acceptable as a park ski at a smaller hill. It is not a good hard snow ski if you are at all interested in carving. It is a really good soft snow ski, it's playful and quick for it's size.

Look at the 178 (more versatile) or 185 (more stable, better in Big Mountains).
post #3 of 14
Blizzard Titan 9 (181 and 188 lengths)

AK King Salmon (only comes in a 180)

Volkl Mantra (at 5'11" I found the 177 too short, so look at the 184 at least)

Volkl Karma (skis incredibly short, again I found the 177 short, so look for a 185)

I have skied all of these with the T9 and KS being in the current quiver. They all rip and are versatile (i.e. decent on hardpack, groomers, spring slush, and mild pow).


PS:
If you're serious about the Scratch BC, check out the Sickbird. It's Rossi's AT/Tele model and is basically the same as the Scratch BC, only cheaper and with a different top sheet. You could save yourself a few $$$.
post #4 of 14
You don't mention terrain park etc.......so why a twin tip?

SJ
post #5 of 14
I have a nordica beast in 188 and it is a very nice every day ski for a big mountain and also works for mole hills with hard snow assuming it is snow (not ice). Its a wood core cap ski and is very light with no metal. I have heard some horror stories about durability and compressed edges but I think maybe they fixed most of the durability issues (mine was form the final year of production). So far the durability of mine has been pretty good but the bases seem sort of soft, but the edges seem pretty good so far and I have been skiing them hard in not always the best coverage. The ride is pretty damp and stable. The ski is stiff under foot which gives stability but softer in the extrmeities. The tips are more like a medium flex while the tails are much softer feeling. This lets it float pretty well assuming you don't mount in front of the line and the softer tails also give the ski some nice snap to it so you can work it into a variety of turn shapes on harder snow. It has a small rear twin and skis short so 188 is a good size for regular purpose use. It is very nice in western bumps. Also makes a good touring ski.
post #6 of 14
Try the K2 PE's. People say they are used for mostly park and pipe but ive seen lots of people on the mountain and pros on movies using them. They are really good skis and i haven't heard anyone complain about their performance. However they get easily scratched.
post #7 of 14
I'm sorta in your boat (Coupla weeks in big mountains, two or three in smaller), unclear why you're thinking of twintips. Switch after big air? Park? Always backside in big pow? Coolness factor? If yes, go for it. If no, they'll be outperformed by a bunch of midfats. Depending on your style, pocketbook, and what kind of flex you like, think about the iM78, Salomon Tornado, Stockli Rotor, Nordica AB, or Volkl AC40; Any of these will cover about everything you encounter except really deep powder, will make way more sense on smaller slopes which will tend to be mostly groomed/hardpack, bumps, and will improve your skiing more than any twintip. (Heresy: gasp
post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 
thank you all guys fro your great input.

I am not interested in park skiing at all, since we dont have a park and I prefer freeride in BM. But I wanna twins because I like how they look like.
Don`t they carve at all, do they?
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by apeyros View Post
thank you all guys fro your great input.

I am not interested in park skiing at all, since we dont have a park and I prefer freeride in BM. But I wanna twins because I like how they look like.
Don`t they carve at all, do they?

Busted!!! you're really BushPA under a false login.

SJ
post #10 of 14
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Busted!!! you're really BushPA under a false login.

SJ
nope my new MO is pittsburghese post. He is a great troll though but he just doenst know any better. Just remember that if your skis wider than 70mm and twin tipped it wont carve at all.



not one little bit:.

especailly those Public enemies there is no way those floppy twin tips could carve at all.



and FYI I never bought a twin cause I like how they look, I like softer tails and do ski switch and do park stuff quite a bit. Twin tips have all the above.
post #11 of 14
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Just remember that if your skis wider than 70mm and twin tipped it wont carve at all.
True...thanks for reminding us all about that fact.

Ackchully, I thunk that he might be ewe ar U mite be him becuz of the harble gromr an spilling.



SJ
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
Busted!!! you're really BushPA under a false login.

SJ
I trie my bst too bee alike with him!
post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
True...thanks for reminding us all about that fact.

Ackchully, I thunk that he might be ewe ar U mite be him becuz of the harble gromr an spilling.



SJ
still not pittsburghese
post #14 of 14
Check out www.bluehouseskis.com the MR's would be pretty nice for you, seems like they would work very well in all conditions. I have Mojos which are 90 waist and they work for everything. The twin really helps on groomers because after a while you just get bored skiing them all the time and then you can work on skiing switch. Fun stuff.
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