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Best Drills for skiing

post #1 of 28
Thread Starter 
We've got a current thread on best drills, but that's for golf. Let's hear your skiing drills. Put 'em here; don't make me read a book!
post #2 of 28
Hi Ghost! Mine is skating down the fall line which turns into dynamic short radius turns. This drill is great for giving your students a real feel for moving into the future.

I had started a thread earlier this summer called What's your favorite ski tip when teaching others to ski? ( 1 2) that had some pretty good ideas for progressions or drills too. The thread has lost interest so I'm really happy to see a similar one to generate other ideas.
post #3 of 28
For anyone one that knows me my favorite drill would be leapers!!

1.Simultaneous edge change
2.Move Com down the hill
3.Warms you om a cold day
4.Enhances flexion and extension
5.Fun and dynamic!
post #4 of 28
I use a Black and Decker 14V cordless.
post #5 of 28
Anything that enhances balance - especially balance on one ski.
post #6 of 28
I've heard that pivot slips are good for you. (Paging Bob Barnes). I can't do them to save my life, so I don't know that I'd call them a "favorite" drill though.

I like doing pole boxes to help get some proper angles going. And I like doing an intentional side-slip in my turn transitions to remind myself to completely release the old edges before trying to start the next turn. Not sure if that last one has a name or not... I just do it.
post #7 of 28
Thread Starter 
Great. We've got a few drills, but please describe them. My idea is to have a thread here for people to try out some new to them drills.

I guess skiing on one ski doesn't need much description.
Leapers =?
Pole boxes = ?
Pivot slips = ? (and while you're at it, how is it different from falling leaves?)
post #8 of 28
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I use a Black and Decker 14V cordless.
Don't forget the super sexy ribbon bit.
post #9 of 28
Sorry here is a pretty good description for Leapers (yeah I guess I am lazy)


8. Leapers
Performed on groomed green or groomed blue terrain.

At the transition between turns the skier "leaps" in the air with a purposeful up un-weighting move. When the skier lands, flexion is employed to regulate the resultant pressure, and a controlled parallel turn is completed. A series of 10 or more may be required.

Task Criteria:
• The skis must be parallel throughout the maneuver.
• Up un-weighting is used to gain clearance for both skis from an edged platform.
• Edge change occurs when the skis are in the air.

Skill Focus:
Demonstration of properly directed movement is a primary focus of this maneuver. The turn can not be unduly affected by ill directed movement, and the turn, immediately upon landing, must proceed smoothly. Also important is the ability to create a platform while finishing a turn.

9. One
post #10 of 28
How about the Phantom or Mini Javelin Turn, where the ski tip of the inside or free foot ski is intentionally lifted and crossed over the tip of the weighted or stance ski. This accomplishes more things at once than any other drill I know of.

1. Promotes one footed balance.
2. Promotes early weight shift, as balance must be established on the new outside or stance ski of the turn before the turn can actually begin.
3. Promotes free foot management, as the unweighted inside ski must be drawn in towards the weighted outside ski and held in place.
4. Promotes tipping of the unweighted free foot ski in order to hold it in a crossed position over the weighted outside ski.
5. Promotes a balanced stance, as the inside leg must be flexed to create this position, therefore bringing and keeping the feet tucked under the hips.
6. Practically eliminates backseat driving (see #5).
7. Promotes proper hand and pole position, as it is difficult to maintain balance while doing this drill if the hands and arms are in the wrong place.

I could probably think of a few more, but lunch break is almost over.
Gotta get back to work...
post #11 of 28

pivot slips and Bob Barnes

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I've heard that pivot slips are good for you. (Paging Bob Barnes). I can't do them to save my life, so I don't know that I'd call them a "favorite" drill though.

I can't do them to save my life either. I'm not actually sure what's supposed to be done. Bob did recommend I do them in my very first newbie MA video thread. I'd love to see a video of pivot slips being done properly. Anyone have such a video?

-Adam
post #12 of 28
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Anyone have such a video?

-Adam
Bob does I think.
post #13 of 28
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I use a Black and Decker 14V cordless.
You need one of these. :

post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by abertsch View Post
I can't do them to save my life either. I'm not actually sure what's supposed to be done. Bob did recommend I do them in my very first newbie MA video thread. I'd love to see a video of pivot slips being done properly. Anyone have such a video?

There's a blocky animation video of Ric Reiter (aka, VailSnowPro on here) here:


 


Edited by dchan - 3/16/2009 at 08:20 pm
post #15 of 28
Mac,

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I could probably think of a few more, but lunch break is almost over.
Gotta get back to work...
Javelen turns are a drill to teach skiing into a countered position without allowing the inside foot to move ahead, good drill.

For upper level skiers,

pivot skips
thousand steps
skate to shape
stem steps

For intermediate skiers

vertical slide slip
uphill cristies
clean traverse
uphill skating

beginner skiers

skating
wedge garlends
stepping around turns
anything that teaches diagional movements

RW
post #16 of 28
Ron. Skate to shape ???
post #17 of 28
any drills for young racers (ages 8 - 11years) for railing / carving ?
post #18 of 28
Straght run traverse - on blue black slope, on edge, flex and extend, repeat-repeat-repeat.

The goal of the drill is to flex-extend without changing edge angle.
post #19 of 28
Skate to shape--a description.

Skate to shape is a drill for upper level skiers. It has 3 parts of the drill. It starts by skating down an incline (easy blue) where the skate part cames in. From there some shape is added to the skate movement, but still a 1 - 2 movement (the two part) and from there the shape is retained but the skate sequence is broungt into a simotanious transition and shaped short turn.
This drill is good for level 8 skiers, or the average instructor level of skiing. It brings the movement of skating into fluid short turns. The task for the drill might be do six skates, six 1 -2 adding shape and six short turns. What I am looking for is three very destinct parts of this drill and not going from skating to short turns without the second 1 - 2 part or ending up with sequential short turns.

RW
post #20 of 28
Gary,

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any drills for young racers (ages 8 - 11years) for railing / carving ?
Anything that gets and keeps them active throughout the turn. The biggest problem with that age group is once they learn to ride a rail, they park and ride. The hip falls back and there is no real activity going on during the turn until the transition to the next turn. They need to keep the outside hip over the outside ski so they can move inward with it instead of back.

Both thousand steps and stem steps are challanging and teach good diagional movement progressing throughout the turn. The task may be in thousand steps to make crisp lines in the snow with each ski and stepping and not turning through the transition. The task might be in stem steps to now let the outside ski contact the snow until the fall line or after.

Hope this helps.

RW
post #21 of 28
thanks Ron. I'll have a look at these on Thursday night at the dry slope and see if I can try them out.
post #22 of 28
The other good thing about skate-to-shape-to-short is that it's fun. If you're teaching kids or adults at that level, they love it.
post #23 of 28
Ice Skate figure eights.
post #24 of 28
Great info guys, keep it up!
post #25 of 28
I absolutely love---and am stealing---the soccer ball drill. Got one sitting in my front seat right now to take to the mountain tomorrow for my 9-10 yr olds tomorrow.

I forgot all about "STEM STEPS" I believe I did this drill with an examiner (during my L3 test) I had never done them before and had to learn on the spot. I recall doing them at Stowe on Nose Dive---steep and bumpy boiler plate. If this is the drill I was doing, I do recall feeling some good moves. ANYONE CARE TO DESCRIBE IN DETAIL----I would attempt but dont want to confuse the masses.
post #26 of 28
Another great drill on steeps are converging steps.

RW
post #27 of 28

can you provide any links to videos of these? Especially the upper level skiers?  I've read the skate to shape, but don't fully understand the 3 parts of the skate then shape.

post #28 of 28

I think we need to get Bob, Ron and a few other guys out on the slopes to do some good video's for stuff like drills.


And of course, each instructor doing their favorite drills, like Bob doing the Pivot Slip for us.

I really wish I was closer to an instructor so I could make these things happen for us and we could all benifit.

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