Originally Posted by RiDeC58
A-man (HeadMan?), I have seen you recommend this previously and I am anxious to work on it, but it seems somehow contrary to my experience in that:
1) My skiing made its greatest improvements when, as an old time Eastern Tail pusher, I finally learned to engage my edges EARLY in the turn and carve through the fall line rather than skidding the tails then trying to set an edge.
2) And the corollary, is that the edge is easier to set and therefore the turn easier to shape with the early edge set. Once you have skidded the top of the turn into the fall line it can be difficult to recover and set the edge particularly on the old Eastern Blue Powder.
Any thoughts or further discussion would be much appreciated.
I guess I'll take a stab at some further thoughts on this.
I don't see A-man's suggestion as necessarily contrary to your experience. I just think you need to experiment with it and try to look at it a bit differently.
Don't think of this as a traditional check to control speed, resisting both momentum and gravity taking you down the fall-line with the skis turned across the fall-line and direction of travel.
Try finishing the end of the turn such that your core and momentum are headed across the hill ...or maybe even a bit up the hill. So to an observer standing at the bottom of the hill you are now hovering across the hill and no longer coming towards them and while you're doing that you reorient your skis to point more or less down the fall-line; so, you are side slipping across the hill and use your skis to control your sideways speed just like you would side slipping down the hill, only in this case you are mostly only controlling your momentum ....not momentum + gravity ...and since you are going across the hill, the slope is not falling away from you! Gradually (or harshly ....your choice), you bleed off your momentum while gravity is also working on your inertia and you begin more and more to start moving down the fall-line ...the direction your skis are pointed. So essentially, you could start each turn in the fall-line, with your skis pointed straight down the hill with about zero forward velocity! Make sure ya save enough of the sideways momentum to de-camber the ski!!! ...we are controlling speed here, so might as well have the ski bend right into a tight turn as ya engage it in the fall-line...
The reason it is not contrary to your experience, is that you get to manage when you lock up the edge so that you are/will be/or are close to going the direction your skis are pointed when you do - or not! But if not, you've still removed a chunk of gravity, and the slope falling away, from the equation so it'll be easier to engage that edge abruptly if you like - compared to the old time eastern tail pusher check maneuver.
I guess I've kinda painted the picture of skis going from across the fall-line to parallel with the fall-line. I think that's a good way to begin thinking and playing with this; from there I think it becomes more about direction of travel of the core, the steering angle of the skis and how you work the skis in the snow for it to become the subtle nuance that A-man alludes to.