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In Between the Turns

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
When finishing one turn and going to the next some of the time it seems my skis leave the snow from the energy created by the skis flexing. Is this a waste of energy that could be directed towards a more useful means?
post #2 of 9
Anytime you bend a ski you have stored energy in the ski, that energy will be released no matter what - as you have noticed.

That energy can be harnessed to:

1 - Accelerate you out of the turn, one reason an experienced racer can accelerate out of every turn - going faster than many folks going straight.

2 - Rebound you up into the air. Very useful when doing turns in extreme steeps and other situations.

3 - Rebound you laterally across the snow (essentially the same as #2 - just a directional difference).

4 - Any combination of the above.

The ski is going to snap straight after you've bent it no matter what, its a matter of timing and tactics to learn how to harness that energy rather than let it dissipate uselessly.

The stored energy also can be counter productive when not harnessed. It can cause or enhance a skid, when it snaps straight. It can unexpectedly launch the skier, often the cause of getting caught in the 'backseat'.
post #3 of 9
One of the fun ways is to use that energy to let the skis move from side to side (crossunder) under your body while keeping the upper body quiet.
post #4 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your expert insight. One last question. It seems the more I turn on the groom the faster I go. Even if I turn sharper up the hill my speed keeps increasing. The only way to slow down is to skid the turns. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Lucky:
One of the fun ways is to use that energy to let the skis move from side to side (crossunder) under your body while keeping the upper body quiet.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

It sure makes turning the skis easier for us old guys.
post #6 of 9
Yep - using stored energy for cross-under is a refined usage of lateral rebound. It is fun and smooth, it can also be explosive and energetic in for example high speed carved SL turns.
post #7 of 9
Yeah, what Todd M said. This reminds me of the only time I was ever run into while skiing. I was doing the "rebound thing" and some bozo crashed into me (not too hard) from behind. His reaction was something like "why are you bouncing all over the place." Jeesh moron its called carving, enjoying the sweet science of skiing.
post #8 of 9
In steeps and other terrain it certainly is useful to use the snap to get your skis and body up off the snow. On groomed trails however, it is more effective to try and keep contact with the snow, not always as easy as it sounds. Keeping contact with the snow keeps you more forward, thus, more balanced on your skis and able to engauge the next turn easier.
After harnessing and becoming comfortable with the snap of your skis the next step is to get your hips up and forward driving into the begging of each turn. When this is done and done well, WOW!!! WHAT A RIDE!!!

post #9 of 9
"More effective" is dependant on what your needs/goals are. Certainly in many turns its more *effecient* to use the snap to accelerate forwards instead of using it for upwards and/or lateral rebound.

However, on the same groomed slope with gates on it the rebound is often very useful to maintain or change the line you need to keep.

Additionally, even if you don't need to do it, its often a lot of fun to do . . . and therefore *effective* at being fun!
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