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post #31 of 47
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Originally Posted by 2-turn View Post
I have not heard about any studies done, but have heard the problem with full face is the chin guard can dig into the snow, and tweak your neck. That's not really a problem with street or motocross.

Yup. I woke up from a cartwheel ride with no helmet. I was wearing a giro mad max. It fit well, by no means "custom fit" perfect, but I have gotten into plenty of falls with non full face's that fit about the same, where the helmet stayed on my head.

Witnesses told me the helmet came off within the first couple cartwheels. Who knows, if I hadn't of been wearing a full face, the helmet might have stayed on, and I might not have gotten knocked out.

Anyways, thats why I don't wear one any more.
post #32 of 47
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Originally Posted by madriverskier View Post
I don't know about poser but certainly a sucker for " more stuff "

WTF are you guys doing ... I ski MRG, I wear a helmet and goggles, good pair of gloves and other than that I pray and hope for the best. I've been skiing every season for 41 years and have managed to get by with a few fractures and an ACL rebuild. None of that armor would have prevented any of those injuries.
That " armor " sales guy really saw you coming. Do you wear a full flotation suit when you go to the beach. I'll bet you wear a life jacket when you go ice skating even when it's on an indoor ice rink ... !

Yea, if your racing, sure you need that protection, if you're running downhill or something like that and certainly if your getting major air off cliffs out west, but what in the world are you doing with all that gear when you spend most of your time at Killington and Hunter MT? But come to think of it , the only two times that I've ever been run into by a skier was at killington and one time the one guy was wearing a body armor ... !!

Maybe dial it back a notch or two and do us all a favor.
While I don't get major air, I do ski out west, and like to ski exposed terrain with speed.

I have only had one major, injury inducing fall. (see post above). However, I have found padded shorts and a helmet help to absorb a lot of impact even in lower consequence falls. They can be the difference between a bad injury, or just being sore, but they can also be the difference between being sore, and nothing.
post #33 of 47
Rec racer. Not a big armor guy but I do like neoprene sleeves for the knees and a neoprene back wrap. Keeps everything nice and warm and loose. Helmet. Padded gloves.
post #34 of 47
cheezo Harry, you do read a lot into what Ive said, a result of geographical differences I think? Glaswegian language often needs to be taken with a fairly large pinch of salt... and certainly not personally :

anyway, Im new here so take it easy big fella
post #35 of 47
I have always believed that you should compete just like you train. It's not a good idea to do something out of the ordinary on a day when you need to be performing your best.
post #36 of 47
I've got a really nice Troy Lee D2 fullface helmet left over from my freeride/DH mtb days, but I don't wear it skiing for two reasons:

1) It's too much mass bouncing around on your pack when you're hiking.

2) The chinbar gets in the way of an Avalung mouthpiece.

As for the other stuff I used to wear knee/skin armor, thigh/illium armor, rib/chest armor, back armor, shoulder/forarm armor all the time on my bike, but I don't wear any of it when skiing.
post #37 of 47
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Originally Posted by tromano View Post
I have always believed that you should compete just like you train. It's not a good idea to do something out of the ordinary on a day when you need to be performing your best.
I agree with this, I feel naked skiing without my helmet and knee supports.
post #38 of 47
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Originally Posted by Scottish Rockhopper View Post
cheezo Harry, you do read a lot into what Ive said, a result of geographical differences I think? Glaswegian language often needs to be taken with a fairly large pinch of salt... and certainly not personally :

anyway, Im new here so take it easy big fella
Fair enough. when you get to this part of the world, come across the border, 'go east' and I'll buy you a pint of Kilt Lifter.
post #39 of 47
I wear a helmet when skiing. Probably for the wrong reason - it keeps my head warm. I started wearing a helmet when I picked up snowboarding.
Boarding -
Helmet
Elbow pads (elbows are in rough shape from other accidents, mostly from rolling across the highway)
post #40 of 47
Fullcut helmet, back protector. Freeskier, high speed and hucks up to 35-40 feet.

Even my dad uses a helmet now. People who don't obviously have nothing worth protecting... at least when skiing populated slopes/inbounds terrain. Even if you won't fall, you don't know when someone clips you down from behind.
post #41 of 47

Ski Safety gear....

 

I prep my own skis since shops ruined them a couple of times and a properly prepped ski makes a hell of a control differentiator...

 

I started wearing contacts instead of glassed to prevent fogging (no depth perception) and I spend a lot on goggles or shades because i ski largely on my eyes and if i chew the wrong input i am definitely going to be out of control 

 

Since my ears were getting cold and i started to wear a hat i started to wear a helmet.... Ever noticed how many times it hits a elevator security bar.... Will ski with one forever... Just bought a new smith which is properly adjustable for my head.

 

Damaged my knees some 15 years ago, and now i ski with metal braces, not to support them, just to protect them if i get in a bad fall.

 

Never had strong wrists, so i am pretty happy with my dainese gloves with build in protector, who seem te able to take of some of the load... so happy i will get a second pair...

 

I use leki poles with a s-strap, they are practicall and comfy, would have loved a truely integrated version with the dainese gloves.

 

And now i am seriously considering a dainese core jacket.... To protect my spine more or less.

 

Now is this needed? Nope if you ski slowly on an empty piste with great view and excellent snow conditions it is not i ski over 40 years and never had a truely bad injury.

Buttttt

nowadays europe is crowded and i ski mailnly with advanced groups who are doing (gps-clocked) 60-80 km/h over uneven terrain with trees zipping by at less than 3m. An no we do not raise that kind of speed in crowded areas or in bad weather. I allways make sure to stay within my skill zone. If i fall it is usally 1 time in a holiday because i lost it when standing still...

However i do notice people around and behind me (which i can not control let alone if they loose it) who might get me unwanted involved in there fall and hurt me in the process worse enough not to be able to ski forever! Not to mention that not being able to work as being self employed is financial a very very bad thing.. 2 weeks no problemo, but anything longer....

 

So no it is not to ski with the clowns, it is actually to secure me for damaging my health and income!

post #42 of 47

Update: Got the helmet. Mom's happier.

Also, I consider gloves as protection from more than cold. 

 

I don't ski any differently with the helmet than I did without it. 

post #43 of 47

This beginner is going to wear a helmet and a back protector, at least.  I hate hitting my head on the ground even XC skiing (it hurts man!), much less the rare occasion that I end up on my back.

 

I probably should wear padded shorts in addition, but I'll wait on that. 

First time out I had bruised hips from falling, I refused to let off I just keep doing what I was supposed too until I got the hang of it.  Let to maybe 10 or 15 falls.

post #44 of 47

hip pad shorts for hard snow days---- old coot trying to prolong it all.

post #45 of 47

The helmet is a good call for any skier of any ability concerned about their own safety.

 

I skied all my life without a helmet until last year, and 2 hours into a weekend trip last January changed that permanently.  We skiied Lutsen in Minnesota, and my brother, an expert skier who lived in Tahoe for 10 years and did his share of extreme skiing, was debating whether or not to wear his helmet given the warm weather (above 20 degrees, no wind) and the 'junior' status of this mountain (1100 foot vertical, 1,000 acres) compared to what he was accustomed to.  His wife convinced him he should wear the helmet anyway.

 

On his second run, he decided to take a more difficult run directly under a chairlift that only qualified as a black due to the fact it was an ungroomed, relatively narrow run.  At the end of transition on his third turn, his skis came down on a covered root system and he double ejected, catapulting face first into another root system down the fall line.  The brow of his helmet impacted first directly into a large, protuding root before the rest of his face, followed by his body, impacted the snow/ground/roots and he tumbled several meters down the hill.  He cracked his goggles and lacerated the bridge of his nose and chin, but he was fine.  Had he not been wearing his helmet, he would have been hospitalized with severe head and face injuries.

 

At the bottom of the groomer next to that run as we examined my brother's injuries and listened to his tale of the crash, we witnessed a ripping snowboarder take a lip off the last rise of the run and clip the head of a slow-moving, very in-control, intermediate skier below who was also very fortunate to be wearing a helmet ... she was knocked over but did not sustain injury.

 

I made my decision right there to begin my traverse toward the ski shop to get myself a helmet.  On my last run down to the base, I witnessed a collision between two skiers, one of whom was not wearing a helmet and who ended up with a pretty severe concussion ... he was groggy, didn't know where he was, and had severely blurred vision when a few of us stopped to assist him.

 

I will never ski without a helmet again, regardless of terrain, circumstances or weather.  Ghost, I understand why your Mom is happy now!


Edited by LaneMeyerK12 - 11/13/10 at 10:24am
post #46 of 47

I forgot about this thread..   Classic stuff here.

 

Go back to post #1 and re-read it.  Frickin' hilarious.

post #47 of 47
Whatever happened to rich?
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