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post #31 of 54
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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
Personally I find my '97 Chubbs to be an excellent mogul ski. Although they are considerably wider than mogul specific skis, they have very little sidecut and nicely flexible tips. Chubbs rule!
OK, where don't you like your Chubbs? that would be easier.
post #32 of 54
Actually, the Chubbs have the perfect mogul ski personality, a nice soft even flex but torsionally very ridgid. If you want to ooze through the bumps and actually slow down on each turn the Chubbs will give you a constant contact ride with no bucking, and to listen to half the people on this forum and TGR 90mm waisted skis are becoming standard mogul tools. When in doubt, go Chubby!

My wife is 5'5", weighs 115 lbs. and skis 168 Chubbs in almost all conditions. They used to be her dedicated powder skis (she has a carver and and all-mt. too), but she gradually gravitated to using the Chubbs in more and more conditions. I've seen her ski steep, hard, trenched out bumps at Telluride on them with no problem.

Volantaddict skis at Montana Snowbowl, and I can tell you from experience, if the Chubbs work there for an every day ski they'll work anywhere. The Bowl has some righteous bump runs.
post #33 of 54
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Originally Posted by mudfoot View Post
Actually, the Chubbs have the perfect mogul ski personality, a nice soft even flex but torsionally very ridgid. If you want to ooze through the bumps and actually slow down on each turn the Chubbs will give you a constant contact ride with no bucking, and to listen to half the people on this forum and TGR 90mm waisted skis are becoming standard mogul tools. When in doubt, go Chubby!
I've been skiing my Chubbs in the bumps for a couple of years now and Pocket Rockets for a couple of years before that. I thought I just didn't know any better.

This year I'm gonna try a more conventionally appropriate bump ski and see how I like that.
post #34 of 54
I dare say that Chubbs might have been the best fat bump ski ever made.

A close second was the Olin Outer Limits.
post #35 of 54
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Volantaddict skis at Montana Snowbowl, and I can tell you from experience, if the Chubbs work there for an every day ski they'll work anywhere. The Bowl has some righteous bump runs.
I have some 175cm V2 Chubbs. Early in the season I really liked them in moguls but that turned out to be because I was skiing moguls much more deliberately with my skis always on the snow. Once the coverage got better so I could ski faster I ended up hating the Chubbs in moguls because their excessive weight made them hard to turn in the air or pivot quickly on the top of a mogul.
post #36 of 54
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
OK, where don't you like your Chubbs? that would be easier.
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post #37 of 54
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Originally Posted by Lars View Post
I dare say that Chubbs might have been the best fat bump ski ever made.

A close second was the Olin Outer Limits.
Outer Limits was actually a rebadged AK Launcher. I have a number ofgood friends who swear by the Launchers for their everyday Snowbowl ski, and as Mudfoot suggested, skis that can't handle moguls are useless as tits on a boar at The Bowl.
post #38 of 54
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Originally Posted by Rio View Post
I have some 175cm V2 Chubbs. Early in the season I really liked them in moguls but that turned out to be because I was skiing moguls much more deliberately with my skis always on the snow. Once the coverage got better so I could ski faster I ended up hating the Chubbs in moguls because their excessive weight made them hard to turn in the air or pivot quickly on the top of a mogul.
True, the V2s are heavy as hell (older Chubbs are not so portly), and lack the nibleness of the American made Chubbs. They also have considerably more side cut, which makes them less suitable for moguls.
post #39 of 54
VA, what are these?

post #40 of 54
They look like crud piles to me.
post #41 of 54
194 Rossignol B Squads
post #42 of 54
For a fat ski, I loved my Seths, light, soft and dare I say *nimble* in the bumps. For hard bumps, my Titan Nines do the job.
post #43 of 54
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
VA, what are these?

Those are my V2s, a fantastic ski for corn bumps, but the Colorado Chubbs are better in the bumps.
post #44 of 54
It's ski swap season and I'm looking for a lightly used ski of this type (best ski for moguls that is not a mogul specific ski) for my 16 yr old son. He's 6', 130lbs, probably between level 6 and 7 and just getting into bumps, but fairly aggressive in tough terrain, and speedy on groomers. Mostly skis in tight old school parallel-skid style. He wants a bump ski, but I suspect a truly dedicated bump ski will lack versatility he needs. He likes to test himself in bumpy runs such as Blue Knob PA's Extrovert, but will invariably spend a lot of time on hard East coast groomers. Currently on a 8yr old pair of GS type Atomic skis with moderate sidecut, in 170cms. He'll be moving from a one ski quiver to a one ski quiver.
From this and other threads I'm thinking the following may be best candidates:
Rossi B1, then B2
Nordica Mach 3 (not power version)
Dynastar 8000 or contact 11
K2 Enemies, K2 Mods
Any twin tip with narrow waist and not much sidecut?
Generally I guess I should be looking for soft ski, not too much sidecut, little or no metal and will probably stay in the 165-175cm range. Should I not give up on selecting a more dedicated bump ski like dragonslayers/twister, rebellion/karma, 1080s supermogul, etc?
Any advice, comments, additional candidates likely to show up in East coast ski swaps?
Thanks.
post #45 of 54
I have a pair of 163 cm Atomi freezone bump with beta technology that I use when I go to Vermont and love them. I am 6'0" and 150 lbs. They are an older ski I think I bought them in 2001 or 2002 but they are awesome. They are great in the bumps and trees and on the groomers. Try to pick a pair of them and get them resurfaced you will not be dissapointed. Here is a link to a pair of them on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/Atomic-Free-Zone...QQcmdZViewItem
post #46 of 54
Add the Dynastar Troublemaker to your list. It is stiff underfoot but softer in the extremities especially the tail, and has a fairly straight shape. The recent '06-'07 model is a very good ski with great build quality and often underappreciated and underpriced.

SJ
post #47 of 54

Short answer...

..."any current slalom ski"...
post #48 of 54
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Originally Posted by SkiRacer55 View Post
..."any current slalom ski"...
you maybe able to ski them in bumps I can ski them in bumps but every ski I own now is better than my last pairs of SL in a bump run.

sidecut, and stiffness are the last things you want in a bump run.
post #49 of 54
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
Add the Dynastar Troublemaker to your list. It is stiff underfoot but softer in the extremities especially the tail, and has a fairly straight shape. The recent '06-'07 model is a very good ski with great build quality and often underappreciated and underpriced.

SJ
Dang it, Jim! That's what I was going to say! haha

Dennis
post #50 of 54
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Originally Posted by lloyd braun View Post
first learn to ski bumps, then buy your ski.

the ski will never make you a better skier.......

My observation has always been that the best bump ski is the one that the best bump skier if on

"It's not the sword, it's the swordsman"
post #51 of 54
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
any twin tip with a kinda of narrow waist and not that much sidecut will work pretty good.
i'll probly get the piss ripped for this but yeh i like the old salomon teneighty/up to 2007 thruster in the bumps
post #52 of 54
I ski a lot of bumps and I love my PE in the bumps. Not the softest ski but really nimble and I like the way twin tips feel in the bumps.
post #53 of 54
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Originally Posted by Twig View Post
i'll probly get the piss ripped for this but yeh i like the old salomon teneighty/up to 2007 thruster in the bumps
nope its great bump
post #54 of 54
Did the ski swap thing today. Got to stay flexible at swaps. You know how sometimes in a pro draft a team will go with the best available athlete as opposed to selecting the player that fits their predetermined need? Well, went in search of a mainstream ski that excelled in bumps, not sure if I got that, but was convinced by a number of swap personnel to go with a one year old pair of demo Stockli Stormrider AT’s for my son in 166cm (with Marker 1200 bindings). Supposed to be a real high quality, all around ski. Here’s what they look like:

http://www.ski-review.com/content/view/469/30/

Also got him a pair of never used Head S10 Trans Yellow boots, like these:
http://www.helmettown.com/Shop/Contr...d/0/rid/123485

Paid about $440 for all.

Anybody know any of the pros and cons of this set-up, particularly for teen that skis groomers fast and has begun to get into moguls heavily? Of the skis talked about earlier in this thread only Rossi B1 and B2 were available and very little selection/length.
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