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Replacement for Metron B5's ??

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Me, 5'11
weight about 180-185
Age 50
33 years skiing

Current quiver

06/07 Fischer RX8's
04/05 Rossi Bandit B1's
05/06 Rossi bandit B3's
05/06 Metron B5's

I'm a carver and a turner, spend a lot more time on piste than off, more time on groomers than bumps but I like em steep, but do like to venture into the bumps on occasion though my legs can't do it as often as they did 10 years ago.. Split the season about 50% east coast - 50% Colorado

Since I bought the Fischer's, they have become my #1, and I love them.. I also really like the Metrons, and have used them extensively, but quite frankly the weight of them is a pain, carrying them across the parking lot can be a real chore especially on the return trip.. And I find my legs fatigue a bit faster on them than on any of my other skis..

I will still spend more time on the RX8's but am looking for something more all mountain that would have a similar performance to the Metrons but at a lighter weight, I'm considering the Magfire 12, any comparisons? Suggestions? All feedback appreciated..!
post #2 of 19
Why replace them? Between the RX8 and the B3 you seem to have most every day type skiing pretty well handles. The B1 is your bump ski I guess... Not sure how many other skinny skis you need. the IM88 is a really nice ski that might be worth trying if you liked the metron they had a similar feel.
post #3 of 19
Magfire 12
AC3
Top Fuel
post #4 of 19
Wow, from bandits to Metron! That's a span. these are based on a intermediate/advanced level 6-7.

the 06/07 mag 12 is a great one but that's a advanced/expert ski.
Fischer AMC 73 at Sierra! $299.00 (may be too low level?)
AMC 76
06/07 or new Dynastar LTD or 07 contact 11 or 10
new head Xenon 9.0 (similar to Metron in dims)
new head 78
Any year Supershape if you have good technical skills
06/07 or new mag 10 would also be a good one. that one will have a very close dims to the metron. this is if you aren't very aggressive otherwise, go to the Mag12.
post #5 of 19
Magfire 12 - 126/82/109
Nordica Hot rod Top Fuel - 123/78/108

Both wide enough to take you to a mid fat range, and yet narrow enough to blend with your desired ski world, and both different from those you have in your current quiver.
post #6 of 19
Trek, just curious why you recommend the Top Fuel over the more tractable Nitrous with the same profile (and a ski you own)? Also a consideration is the Nordica Mach 3 Carbon. Both the Nitrous and Carbon are lighter, more flexible ski than the top end of their respective lines (Top Fuel / Power) which include metal. Either of these would have plenty of holding power for carving, and be a little nicer on softer conditions. I have to agree with the Finndog's comments on SuperShapes too. That ski has quite a reputation for arcing.
post #7 of 19
Trek, just curious why you recommend the Top Fuel over the more tractable Nitrous with the same profile? The OP was looking for lighter weight, which shouldn't be much of a challenge compared to a B5. Also a consideration is the 72 mm waiste Nordica Mach 3 Carbon, or perhaps a wider GS carver like the Afterburner. All of these Nordicas (Nitrous, Carbon, Afterburner) are lighter, more flexible ski than the top end of their respective lines (Top Fuel / Power) which include metal. Any of these would have plenty of holding power for carving, and be a little nicer on softer conditions, although all do different things. I have to agree with the Finndog's comments on SuperShapes too. That ski has quite a reputation for arcing.
post #8 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Any year Supershape if you have good technical skills
Hey Finn,

How similar is the supershape to the RX8? I find the RX8 a very easy ski, and I love it. but don't want to get too redundant.. I haven't skied on Head since the late 70's..
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
Trek, just curious why you recommend the Top Fuel over the more tractable Nitrous with the same profile (and a ski you own)? Also a consideration is the Nordica Mach 3 Carbon. Both the Nitrous and Carbon are lighter, more flexible ski than the top end of their respective lines (Top Fuel / Power) which include metal. Either of these would have plenty of holding power for carving, and be a little nicer on softer conditions. I have to agree with the Finndog's comments on SuperShapes too. That ski has quite a reputation for arcing.
He'd like either of them, but I figured with his weight he'd like the top fuel over the nitrous.

Dont' get me wrong, I enjoy the nitrous, but I weigh 60 lbs less than he does.

Paul jones has the top fuel. He may have more to offer this discussion.
post #10 of 19
Trek, FWIW, 185 is the correct weight to below average for a 6-foot guy 50 years old. Good on him! I skied the Nitrous in a 178 last year and will offer that even though I am comparatively heavy, I never felt the ski would fold. It is easier on initiation and in the bumps.
post #11 of 19
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
Trek, FWIW, 185 is the correct weight to below average for a 6-foot guy 50 years old. Good on him! I skied the Nitrous in a 178 last year and will offer that even though I am comparatively heavy, I never felt the ski would fold. It is easier on initiation and in the bumps.
I guess I hadn't really thought much on that, but you are correct.
My husband has adopted my Nitrous 170cm, and he's about 170lbs.
(180 if he weighs himself while I can see the scale )

He has enjoyed my Nordica Nitrous as much, if not more than I did. Especially after I had a good tune put on it for the last ski day we had here, in the April Blizzard.
post #12 of 19
If you're looking at Nordica, don't skip over the Afterburner. While a bit wider at 84mm, it's combination of torsional strength and comfortable flex result in a ski that is comfortable on both groomed and ungroomed terrain. While I also had the Mach 3 Power last year for the hard-snow days (which is likely covered by your RX8s, another great ski), the Afterburner really became my favorite ski for pretty much any condition.
post #13 of 19
Try to demo a Head IM 78.
post #14 of 19
Just my humble opinion; your milage may vary, but I think the RX8 should do you fine for small turns; you need something that will let you a) make bigger turns and b) make the same turns at higher speeds and bigger lean angles. It's great fun to really lean into a turn and feel some heavy g-forces, without having to be skiing 10/10ths in preparation for being catapulted across the hill.
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the feedback everyone..

Of the 4 skis that I currently have, the only that I am 100% certain I will still have come January is the RX8's, I love them..

Anything I buy will probably be an 07/08 model so I can demo them if I can find them..

I'm still looking for some feedback on how the Magfire 12 compares to the MB5, as it would be a replacement for the MB5, I'd appreciate any feedback as to how these 2 compare, keep in mind the weight is one of the reasons I'm looking to get rid of the Metrons.

I'd also wouldn't mind getting another pair of quick turners that are a bit longer than my RX8's that I could use for Nastar and just an alternative to the RX8's....

A couple that I am considering are the Head Supershapes though I wouldn't mind finding a closeout on these on last years model if there are any left.. another is the Speedwave 12
post #16 of 19
If you think the Metrons are heavy, you won't like the Supershapes...

The Speedwaves are nice, and much lighter.

I stand by my recommendation to try the Afterburner. Coming off the MB5, I found them very nice skis, and underrated.
post #17 of 19
Thread Starter 
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I stand by my recommendation to try the Afterburner. Coming off the MB5, I found them very nice skis, and underrated.
Thanks SSH, I will definitely put them on the list, they should be easier to demo as I have a lot of Nordica dealers close by.
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 
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I stand by my recommendation to try the Afterburner. Coming off the MB5, I found them very nice skis, and underrated.
Thanks again SSH

I read your review at

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=49168

and just found a pair of these at 170cm on a closeout deal at $389, Not quite as low as SJ had them in the spring but the pickings are slim right now as far as closeouts go and at that's still a pretty good price, I'll let you know how they feel in 3 months . Again thanks to everyone for all the feedback and help..
post #19 of 19


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