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ski's for true intermediate

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
hello all!
i have been skiing ~4 seasons around Michigan, Wisconsin, Vermont and Colorado (maybe twice a season). i finally bit the bullet and bought new boots (Nordica Dobermann's - now that's another story) that fit the best. i'm a little apprehensive about the stiffness, but they fit by far the best (esp around the ankles). anyhoo, ski's. I ski pretty fast on blue runs and am cautious on blacks. Around 5 7, 160 lb.

i think i get caught in the "all mountain" ski syndrome where i want something that does it all, rather than fit my skill set (or a level or two above my skill). i'll probably spend more time on groomed runs but wouldn't mind going back bowling occasionally. any suggestions would be great! you can even suggest 2 ski's (i love this sport that much!) .
Thanks.
Quack
post #2 of 25
What about the Fischer AMC 73:

http://shop.sierrasnowboard.com/browse.cfm/4,1628.htm

Sounds great for where you are and what you want to do, and it can stick with you as you get better. If you improve so rapidly that you hit expert next year, heck you only paid 300 =)
post #3 of 25
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would 170 be too much ski for me? any other suggestions? i'm intrigued by the head ski's. i ski'd heads like 3 or 4 years ago (they were white with black letters "head") and was impressed how well they did in crud.
post #4 of 25
I would suggest the Head iM72 for a somewhat wide ski, the Head xrc800 for a little bit narrower. Both of these are prior year skis, so prices should be good at early season sales or on eBay.

I think 170 would be a good length.

"back bowling" should be something wider than either of these, but I would rent for that and buy for the other 90% of your skiing.

Notice that I'm not on the "super wide is awesome" bandwagon.
post #5 of 25
That AMC73 is a great ski with soft snow ability. I am a huge Head ski fan and would recomend the 72 if you could find it. The 800 is another great one. The new head Xenon 9.0 and 7.0 are two excellent growth skis. That said, Dynastar 10 is another good choice as well as a volkl AC2, If I were you, (and I'm not) I'd be buying this; http://shop.sierrasnowboard.com/browse.cfm/4,1626.htm The RX6 is a super groomed intermediate ski that you can grow with. Essentially a slightly easier RX8. For $299.00 you can't go wrong. You can also look at the AMC73 while you are there. PM Sierrajim for his advice but I would say based on your description, the RX6.

BTW- I would go to the 165. If you are serious about gaining skills and learning; and the majority of your time will be spent on groomed harder snow, go shorter.

two skis? AMC73 and RX8, for these prices, you can't go wrong.
post #6 of 25
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Originally Posted by Finndog View Post
That AMC73 is a great ski with soft snow ability. I am a huge Head ski fan and would recomend the 72 if you could find it. The 800 is another great one. That said, Dynastar 10 is another good choice, If I were you, (and I'm not) http://shop.sierrasnowboard.com/browse.cfm/4,1626.htm The RX6 is a super groomed intermediate ski that you can grow with. Essentially a slightly easier RX8. For $299.00 you can't go wrong. You can also look at the AMC73 while you are there. PM Sierrajim for his advice but I would say based on your description, the RX6.

BTW- I would go to the 165. If you are serious about gaining skills and learning; and the majority of your time will be spent on groomed harder snow, go shorter.

What Finndog says......Took his advice, just recieved my 73s (170) at a great price from Sierrajim....can't go wrong.....
post #7 of 25
Second the RX6, AMC73, and Head im72. If you like a more lively feel try the fischer if you want something more quiet and damp the heads.
post #8 of 25
Thread Starter 
so many choices!
post #9 of 25
163-ish sounds like a good length for you, have you looked into the Head Xenon 9.0 the description sounds like what you might be looking for.
post #10 of 25
Thread Starter 
hrm, the xrc800 intrigues me (and can be had for ~$200)... but it feels sort of silly to buy something with <70 waist.
post #11 of 25
Thread Starter 
ok so here's what i'm thinking:

1. rx6 165 cm
Side Cut = 114-68-98
Price 299

2. Head i.XRC 800 163 cm
Sidecut 116-65-100mm
Price 215

3. Head Monster iM 72 or maybe even 77 both at 163 cm
More than options 2 and 3

4. All of the above

5. Any other options?

I also have old salomon equipe ski's at around 156ish? ... That would probably go nicely with my new dobie boots.
Hrm too many choices. It's like going through the cereal aisle at a grocery store!
Quack
post #12 of 25
I wouldn't worry about getting a super aggressive ski right off the bat. Get something in a nice length like 170ish with a fairly forgiving flex. I never skied them, but I would have said your salomons should be good for you at that stage. You can grow on a pair of intermediate skis for a long time. I still ski on my old intermediate skis I bought 6 years ago. They rock in the bumps.

As for boots... You really have to try them on. If you can't, I would wait even if you miss out on super discounts and have to pay full price at a resort. It will be worth it to get a good fitting pair of boots.
post #13 of 25
I would drop the iM77 from your list. It's not a 'true intermediate' ski in my opinion. (and it's probably more money as well).
post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 
I got good boots this year (finally). Paid full retail for Nordica Dobermann Pro 100s. Now i know that's a stiff boot, but it's the only one that fit well around my ankle and toebox. The problem I have is that I have smallish but wide feet and narrow ankles. All the other boots I tried had trouble in the ankle area except for the Dobies. I got em fitted and everything at a certified shop on www.bootfitters.com. So I feel I've won 90% of the battle in the ski gear game! They really did a bang up job. Actually walked in em for an hour or so at the shop (they msut've hated me!). I do have concerns about the stiffness, especially in the dead winter, but was told they could decrease the stiffness if necessary. I really paid retail for future services on the boot (which is all free!).

I think I'll get a ski this year and plan on getting a ski next year. Seems to be a trend that I am more than willing to follow!
Quack
post #15 of 25
i would suggesst the iM72. i like those skis very much
post #16 of 25
suggest the iM72 @ 170 - you can't go wrong
post #17 of 25
Thread Starter 
170???
post #18 of 25
170 cm. I am 5'10" 165 lbs and they work for me just great
post #19 of 25
You can find some 174 Rossi B2's or 172 Dynastar 8000's dirt cheap now, enough that you could afford them for the west alone. If you want one ski for west and east, though I'd go with a Head iM72 in 170 or a Volkl AC2 in same.
post #20 of 25
what beyond said and also like gandalf I am not on the "super wide is awesome" bandwagon
post #21 of 25
and I think the iM72 would take you way past the "true intermediate"
post #22 of 25
Thread Starter 
how does the iM70 compare to the iM72 ?
post #23 of 25
haven't skied the 70, but in my mind and from what I have read the 72 is a superior all-around ski
post #24 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by sittingduck99 View Post
how does the iM70 compare to the iM72 ?
I haven't skied them, but from what I have heard and read ....
The 72 replaced the 70 (although I think there was one year of overlap). The iM70 was an excellent ski, the iM72 was an exceptional ski.

If the dollars are right, then I wouldn't hesitate to go with the iM70 (and that leaves more room for a wider ski or a narrower true carver for your next ski).
IMHO
post #25 of 25
Thread Starter 
thanks all for your help!
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