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94mm -to-125mm...what's missing?

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
Okay, so my quiver goes from 94mm (King Salmon) to 125mm (Spatula) with nothing in-between.

Not that I need any more skis, but I've been thinking about getting something that fits firmly between 94 and 125, leaning toward something perhaps in the 110-115mm range give or take a few cm either way.

Yay or nay?

The planks I've been eying (and hope to demo this season) are:

Prior Doughboy (107mm) and/or Overlord (113mm)

Moment Ruby (112mm)

Lib Tech NAS Powder (117mm)

Scotty Bob Powerstorm (106mm)

PM Gear Fat (115mm)

and I would really love to try the crazy sounding Hendryx Rhino Chaser (118) or Purple Haze (108), but don't foresee me heading to Sweden any time soon.

Any other suggestions or do I even need anything in that range (105-115ish)...of course "need" being a relative term.
post #2 of 24
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
Okay..............I've been thinking about getting something that fits firmly between 94 and 125, leaning toward something perhaps in the 110-115mm range give or take a few cm either way.
Why?

SJ
post #3 of 24
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Originally Posted by SierraJim View Post
Why?

SJ
kinda of thinking the samething but out of the ski you mentioned, the PM gear fat is the only one I have skied and its also the only PM gear ski I can say I truly liked.

you know what volkl I would recommend
post #4 of 24
Even I agree with the "why" question. I'd think about a high 90s/low 100s option if you didn't already have the 94, but there's really not much point. My current seven-ski quiver will go from two pairs of 99mm Bros (one soft alpine; one mid-stiff AT) to 136mm Praxis Powders, and I don't anticipate that being much of a functional hole. When it's soft enough to want something more than the Bros, I expect to go wholeheartedly into the Praxis.
post #5 of 24
Marsh agrees with sierrajim

http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...33&postcount=2

I doubt that ever happens again.
post #6 of 24
Can't see a need for a ski between those two. Get rid of the 94 and go to a 105 mm Gotama. Maybe take a look at the new Rossi Steeze.
post #7 of 24
Thread Starter 
Yeah, Marsh chimed in first (I "double posted this on Epic and TGR, since the "fatty" patrol is a little more vocal over there).

I'm actually surprised by the "Why?" answer as it was kind of refreshing. I was braced for a full-on barrage of "get this and this and this."

Though I have to say, having a 7 ski quiver individual tell me not to get another ski is doubly refreshing (what is in that 7 ski quiver AD?)

Perhaps the better question is: what is missing from my existing quiver if I don't really need any gap filling from 94/99 - 125?

Thanks!

PS
I probably will still demo those planks I listed in the initial post just for fun (and would add the Alotta D-Sender with a 112mm waist to the list, as well).
post #8 of 24
I think you have it pretty well covered between those two skis.
post #9 of 24
Thread Starter 
I guess I was just factoring in the noodle aspect of the Spats.

I love 'em in the deepness and 2nd and 3rd day sluff, but they are floppy as hell on the groomers back to the lift, thus prompting me to consider something fatter than the 94, but not as fat as the 125 and then a wee bit stiffer...
post #10 of 24
XXL

Michael
post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
I guess I was just factoring in the noodle aspect of the Spats.

I love 'em in the deepness and 2nd and 3rd day sluff, but they are floppy as hell on the groomers back to the lift, thus prompting me to consider something fatter than the 94, but not as fat as the 125 and then a wee bit stiffer...
It sounds like you need a pair in every 5mm width increment and possibly 2 or 3 different flexes each.

I think you are going to give yourself a migrane........

SJ
post #12 of 24
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
Though I have to say, having a 7 ski quiver individual tell me not to get another ski is doubly refreshing (what is in that 7 ski quiver AD?)
I guess I have to cop to it again. Good thing my wife doesn't know much about Epic, only TGR. And it's really an eight-ski quiver, due to Big Stix duplication; I only count it as seven because the backup Big Stix probably won't see snow until the others are shot, unless I lend them to guests.
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
My bloated 2007-08 quiver, from narrowest to widest waist (which is also, strangely enough, from oldest to newest, and with one exception, from shortest to longest):
  • 200cm 2000(?) Kastle Carvemachine National Team GS (100/65/86; Marker M51): Because on days when the hill is skiing like an icy race course, I prefer to use a ski designed for it.
  • 177cm 2000 Volkl Vectris V20 (103/65/91; Salomon S912): Great short carver for on-piste days; turn on a dime. But the bases and edges are really thin, so they're probably getting replaced by...
  • 178cm 2001 Dynastar 4x4 Vertical Limited (103/67/88; Salomon S912 or Rossignol Power 110 [or Tyrolia FF17]): a.k.a. the 4x4 ATV with a funky Hawaiian-style wood grain graphic. Not yet skied. Based on the dimensions and reviews, I expect these to be slightly less turny than the Vectris, which is ok by me.
  • 186cm 2002 Fischer Big Stix 84 (116/84/103; Salomon S912): These became my go-to everyday ski this spring, because they have enough width to harvest corn, enough beef to bust crud, and enough sidecut to blast groomers. After initial dislike in December 2006, I grew to love these so much that I picked up a pair of 2001s on eBay as insurance against the apparently inevitable delam.
  • 188cm 2006 PM Gear Bro Model Soft (125/99/114; Rossignol Power 140): These were my go-to everyday skis until I fell in love with the Big Stix. The perfect everyday ski for a good snow season in the Sierra, which last year unfortunately wasn't.
  • 188cm 2007 PM Gear Bro Model Midsoft Blem (125/99/114; Marker Duke): Not yet skied. Backcountry, sidecountry and patrolling rig.
  • 195cm 2008 Praxis Powder (124/136/131; Mojo 15): For groomer days, natch. Not yet skied.
The inevitable question is, how much did all that cost? The answer, believe it or not, is less than $2000, including bindings and shipping. And the three biggest ticket items -- the 2006 Bros, Praxis, and Marker Dukes -- were gifts, so my total out of pocket is actually more like $700.

There you have it: The Super-Sized Dirtbag Quiver.
post #13 of 24
Thread Starter 
SJ:

Thanks!

I actually think I might need a ski in every 5mm increment, that's a boffo idea!

Actually, my current quiver is in 8mm increments (78-to-86-to-94), with one 5mm jump (94-to-99) and then a HUGE 24mm jump (99-to-125).

I don't think I'll get to the level of needing something in every 5mm increment.

I hope not, at least.

post #14 of 24
I'm probably the only one sympathetic here...

My concern with the Spats is that they really do require soft snow. This is a serious limitation at a resort. Catwalks, merge areas and other high traffic zones are going to be a challenge even on big snow days.

The fatter skis with sidecut, like the Gotama, XXL and others, are going to be much easier in-transit to the deep stuff.

My 2 cents.

Michael
post #15 of 24
Ski with a caddie who can give you a narrow ski when you get to the road. A good ski caddie can help with ski selection. Don't forget to tip!
post #16 of 24
Can you be disqualified for having too many skis in your bag?
post #17 of 24
Thread Starter 
I don't play golf, but what's the typical number of clubs one carries in a bag during a normal game?
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by mdf View Post
Can you be disqualified for having too many skis in your bag?
Only by the airlines.

Michael
post #19 of 24
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
I don't play golf, but what's the typical number of clubs one carries in a bag during a normal game?
14 clubs is regulation. Most 20 handicappers have a Driver/3W/5W/hybrid, 5-9 iron, 3 wedges & putter. I'm about an 18, but I hit the ball far, so I dropped the 3W & play with D/5W, 3-9 iron & 4 wedges b/c gaps between wedges (i.e. scoring clubs) were too big. Ex: PW = 47 degrees, SW = 55 degrees. I added a 52 deg gap wedge.

For Tahoe, it seems to me that if you have a 3 ski quiver, you're set. ~85-90 for most days/bc, spats or praxis for big pow, and mebbe ~105 for in between.

I've added Gots to some Elan m666s, so my "regular" ski is a little narrow, but hey, I like 'em enough so my cheater GS skis, the Superspeeds, were expendable & went to an E. Coast buddy.

Maybe what you're saying is that a gap of more than 10-15 mm width betwen skis is too much; it's like having a 8 degree gap between wedges.

Or, maybe I just went wayy OT with the golf analogy. Oh well, summer's ending soon...
post #20 of 24
I think 3 skis is all you need for a quiver. Something in the 72-85 mm range, one in the 86mm-94mm and then for the true deep days something 100mm + and you are set. Of course your quiver will probably vary.
post #21 of 24
the hendryx skis look very interesting ,im gonna do some looking around for a pair of those .

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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post

Okay, so my quiver goes from 94mm (King Salmon) to 125mm (Spatula) with nothing in-between.

Not that I need any more skis, but I've been thinking about getting something that fits firmly between 94 and 125, leaning toward something perhaps in the 110-115mm range give or take a few cm either way.

Yay or nay?

The planks I've been eying (and hope to demo this season) are:

Prior Doughboy (107mm) and/or Overlord (113mm)

Moment Ruby (112mm)

Lib Tech NAS Powder (117mm)

Scotty Bob Powerstorm (106mm)

PM Gear Fat (115mm)

and I would really love to try the crazy sounding Hendryx Rhino Chaser (118) or Purple Haze (108), but don't foresee me heading to Sweden any time soon.

Any other suggestions or do I even need anything in that range (105-115ish)...of course "need" being a relative term.
post #22 of 24
There should be some kind of warning notice that pops up when you're about to post to a thread that's over a year old (from the last submission).
post #23 of 24
"Dude -- that's soooo last year."
post #24 of 24
oh dear ,sorry wasnt looking .I had never heard of hendryx b efore just thought i would comment ,live and learn.
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