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First four brands are posted: Atomic, K2, Nordica and Völkl.
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The K2 Coomba gets raves.

Michael
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Anyone got a link? I must read the Coomba review but I can't find it on the site :

EDIT: oh, you have to pay?
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yes you do, 20 per year and you get some decent reviews
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How in depth are they

Forgive me, i am Scottish and hence extremely tight with money
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Fork over the darn $20.00 and enjoy. Peter does an excellent job and there is a lot of info. They are not long written articles but shorter succinct reviews with a legend with ski uses and such.
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Done
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Nice,,,, Peter will be adding reviews over the next week or so. He is adding the reviews in order of which brands received the most review cards.
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What is with Peter's reviews this year? Out of the entire Nordica line, he only reviewed one of the "Hot Rod" skis and none of the "Speedmachine Mach" series skis.

If I look back at the 2006 Nordica review page, he mentions virtually every ski in their line. Is he only mentioning the skis that have actually changed from last year?
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What is with Peter's reviews this year? ... Is he only mentioning the skis that have actually changed from last year?
Yes, he mentions that in one of the intro pages. There is a link to last years reviews for each Company to allow access to reviews of unchanged models.

He really gives raves to the new Volkl Tigershark with the PowerSwitch Rods. I assumed this was bogus gimmick, but I might need to reconsider. Has anyone here tried these?
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First four brands are posted: Atomic, K2, Nordica and Völkl.
I can't afford the $20 - what do they say about the Thug the Hellbent and the Katana??
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I can't afford the $20 -
Those 3 HD Plasmas emptied you out?
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Those 3 HD Plasmas emptied you out?

Is that like atomic triplets? What length are they? What bindings? :
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I cant find reviews of the Thug, Hellbent. The Katana is described as being unforgiving
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I can't afford the $20
Here in Bosnia we can.
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here in Oakdale we can too
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Originally Posted by RiDeC58 View Post
Yes, he mentions that in one of the intro pages. There is a link to last years reviews for each Company to allow access to reviews of unchanged models.

He really gives raves to the new Volkl Tigershark with the PowerSwitch Rods. I assumed this was bogus gimmick, but I might need to reconsider. Has anyone here tried these?
Yes I have tried them and they ski great. I too thought it was kinda gimmicky but the proof was in the pudding...er make that snow.
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I was surprised how some of his reviews, numbers or language, were totally different than what respected members of Epic, or anybody else, say. For instance, he thinks the Palmers are the second coming - no one here seems especially impressed - and he pans the new Fury, which people here seem to like a lot. And as usual, his Volkl reviews are mixed, stressing how demanding and un-versatile skis like the Mantra and AC4 are. Which most here see as super versatile skis.

Keelty's always favored Heads, but anyone have an opinion why his reviews are getting so contrarian? Just to stir things up? Because no one over there believes in skis fatter than 85 mm? Indigestion? :
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Don't know how much if affects the reviews, but remember that Epic probably represents the upper 10% of skiers, and Peter is really trying to write reviews for the upper ?? 40% (anyone that isn't using rental gear).

His primary focus, it seems, is anyone that is trying to buy gear and get technically better. As an example, edging a wide ski is probably a challenge for many of the people that read his site (like me!).

Also, his reviewers are ski shop workers and not the pros that the magazines use, so their impressions of a ski will be different. One of the things that I really like about Dawgcatching's reviews is the fact that he frequently includes the opinions of his friend that isn't an upper 10% skier. I get a lot of value in understanding how both of them felt about a ski.
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I bought the iM72 on Peter's evaluation and the M666 on Dawgcatching recommendation. Both are great skis - I just have to get used to the M666 a little bit more
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but remember that Epic probably represents the upper 10% of skiers
you got to be kidding me......in fact kidding everyone, including yourself
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Lloyd,

There're alot of $hitty skiers out there - maybe even 90%.
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I find that any reviews I've been able to compare with my experience having skied the ski match up pretty well. The symbols for level of skier or perfermance of the ski, ideal speed zone, carving ability, etcetera are pretty useful once you figure out what they mean by reading a few reviews of skis you have tried.
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- and he pans the new Fury, which people here seem to like a lot. :
I haven't subscribed so I haven't seen it, but if he says the Fury feels ponderous and lifeless, like a wood core doing a great imitation of a bad foam core, like a B2 without any energy, then I agree.
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I guess people here like it for going off-piste at speed. He seems to say it's good for that too.
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97%

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Don't know how much if affects the reviews, but remember that Epic probably represents the upper 10% of skiers
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Lloyd,

There're alot of $hitty skiers out there - maybe even 90%.
I thought we were better than 97% of the skiers out there????
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Originally Posted by gandalf View Post
Don't know how much if affects the reviews, but remember that Epic probably represents the upper 10% of skiers, and Peter is really trying to write reviews for the upper ?? 40% (anyone that isn't using rental gear).

His primary focus, it seems, is anyone that is trying to buy gear and get technically better. As an example, edging a wide ski is probably a challenge for many of the people that read his site (like me!).

Also, his reviewers are ski shop workers and not the pros that the magazines use, so their impressions of a ski will be different. One of the things that I really like about Dawgcatching's reviews is the fact that he frequently includes the opinions of his friend that isn't an upper 10% skier. I get a lot of value in understanding how both of them felt about a ski.
I will agree that many "shop people" are not on the level that the magazine testers are, however as a shop that test for Keelty, and say we use some very strong skiers. The owner is a PSIA III and has been invited to try out for the D-Team, form college racers and 3 or 4 other guys who are level II. While higher end skiers are able to discern subtle differences they may not always represent the "average Joe public" skier.
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I will agree that many "shop people" are not on the level that the magazine testers are, however as a shop that test for Keelty, and say we use some very strong skiers. The owner is a PSIA III and has been invited to try out for the D-Team, form college racers and 3 or 4 other guys who are level II. While higher end skiers are able to discern subtle differences they may not always represent the "average Joe public" skier.
JDoyal: I wasn't trying to minimize the strengths of the skiers; my perception (or my assumption) was that the people that wind up reviewing for RealSkiers, by the very nature that they work in ski-shops, deal with the skiing public on a regular basis and therefore are more in touch with skier's needs. I look at the bios of the testers in SKI and most seem to be ex-racer (not ex-instructor) and very few seem to have any daily dealings with the skiers that take lessons or buy equipment.
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The thing about the realskiers reviews is that they don't just tell you whether they liked the skis or not; they tell you why and how they would stack them up against other skis in specific performance criteria.
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I think the realskiers reviews are well worth the price for what you get. Quickly to the point, easy to understand, no nonsense reviews that are well organized archived for years and in general match up with my experiences from demoing and skis I have owned. They are especially valuable when bargain hunting for skis that are 2-3 seasons old.

The weakness of epicski is that the discussion moves along far too quickly, generally focuses on the current favorites to the exclusion of all else and tends to rewrite history far to often IMO. I honestly think it would be interesting to see an intermediate skier go out and demo all the skis recommended and report back afterwards. I think it would be good to know which skis actually worked out and which didn't.
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