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newbie needs help on what to buy

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
im pretty good at skiing and i think its time for my own set

i am thinking about getting the salomon teneighty flyer twin tip ski's 2007 (171cm)

i am 6'1 185lbs

can i just put any bindings on twin tip/freestyle skis?
same thing with boots

please lemme know

post #2 of 14


A little more info please. Where do you ski, what runs & conditions do you like.

post #3 of 14
Originally Posted by theovr6 View Post
im pretty good at skiing i am thinking about getting the salomon teneighty flyer twin tip ski's 2007 (171cm)

i am 6'1 185lbs
that ski sounds short for a 6'1" person, are you sure you're "pretty good"? Sounds like you may need to practice a bit, get good and buy a ski that is more your size
post #4 of 14

yeah, at 6'1" a 171 Solly twin twip is gonna be way short.

i would humbly suggest that you spend the first month of the upcoming season demoing before you go out and buy something that will probably be too short and squirrely.

then again it really does depend on:

1. where you will be skiing (East Coast, West Coast, Europe, etc.)
2. what type of terrain you ski (on or off piste, bumps, etc.)
3. how often you ski (how many days)

I'm 5'11 and I can tell you that for me anything shorter than a 180 is, well, short.

Then again it all depends on the ski itself.

Twins usually ski short (i.e. a 185 Karma is the same length as a 181 Blizzard Titan 9, but then it's even shorter because you loose several more cm with the flair of the tips). Most twins ski a lot shorter than their advertised length, so a 171 Twin is gonna be much more like 160-165 actual running length, most likely.

Again, I would suggest you go out and demo several lengths before plunking down and you're probalby going to want to be looking a lot longer than a 171.

of course somebody much more knowledgable can chime in at any moment and correct any of my "assumptions" but it's pretty well regarded that twins ski a lot shorter than their advertised length, so you might want to seriously reconsider a 171cm ski if you are over 6 feet tall.
post #5 of 14
1st get boots. Go to a good boot fitter and get something that fits. This is most important.
2nd demo skis
3rd decide what ski you want and buy it
4th buy bindings that fit the ski (might have to be just a certain model if its a system ski).
post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 
well i usually ski with what the rental place gives me
i ski in lake tahoe area
i can do black diamonds
i wanna start getting into the park and tryin out tricks

so what size ski's should i start lookin at if im 6'1?
like 185's?
post #7 of 14
theovr6, I also ski the Tahoe area and just got my season pass for Kirkwood this year. Lets hope we have a better season than last year. Park skis are often shorter than freeride, and most of the advise above has assumed you want to ski the whole mountain. A longer ski is more stable at speed, while shorter skis are easier to turn and easier to learn on. For twin tip skis, I would think between a 175 and 185 is fine for what you want. FWIW, the ski you mentioned comes in a 177 length IMO that length would be good for starting in the park and still ride the trails.

I have no idea if the ski is the best one for you. The 1080 series has a reputation of being a very soft (noodle) ski. Everything I see says the flyer is for lightweight and junior skiers. At your size, it might be worth considering something a bit stiffer in that class like a 1080 CR Lab, K2 Public Enemy, Volkl Karma, Dynastar Troublemaker, etc. When describing your ability, saying "I can do black diamonds" doesn't tell us much. What you do with black diamonds or even blue cruisers in terms of speed, conditions, turn style, whether you have had lessons etc, means more. Let us know the percentage of time you want to free-ski, park and if you go off piste, and the selection should narrow a bit. Its safe to say owning your own skis will make skiing a more consistent experience and let you advance faster.

As said above, boot fit is critical and most first-time buyers get boots way too large or inappropriate for their objectives. If you are in the Sacramento area, the Sierra Ski and Snowboard store has pretty good help.

(Jim, do I get that commission yet?)
post #8 of 14
^^^^............I thought I already paid ya........:

post #9 of 14
No question about the need to get properly fitted boots before anything else. If you don't do this, you may well get a ski that doesn't respond properly to what you are trying to do. Given SJ's shop's credibility and wide selection of product, you would do well to start there (note: I have not shopped there, as I live in Canada, but their website gives a great indication and SJ's advice and reviews are, IMHO, bang on).

As far as an underrated twin that can really do all mountain very well (+ park stuff) - the Dynastar Big Trouble (hate the new graphics for 08) is a great ski that will allow for a huge confidence boost. Last year models may be harder to get in the longer length of 186, and this is the length that I'd advise if you are a more advanced skier. However, the 176 will be easier to manage in the park.
post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
thanks for all the input guys
i will definently get boots before buying ski's now

about 98% of all my friends snowboard and spend all their time in the park
everytime we go up we only go down the mountain about 3 times and the rest of the day is spent in the park

(i agree hopefully tahoe will have a much better year)
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
will any pair of boots fit freestyle ski's?
post #12 of 14

The drawback to using something like high-performance racing boots with freestyle skis is that they might not fit your body's best balance point during tricks.

The skis wouldn't care; your body might get a bit more bruised, sore and achy and frustrated.
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
what kind of boots would be good with freestyle ski's?

thanks for all the help guys/girls
post #14 of 14
1. sounds like you need to spend more time with skiers outside the park!

As for the boots, don't worry about what fits with what, just go to a bootfitter and talk to them.

Talk about where you ski (resorts), what types of runs you are on the most, how many days a year you ski, how many years you've been skiing, the equipment you've used before that you liked...talk to the bootfitter about your needs, desires.

Boots, like skis, are different for each foot/person. while there are boots that are more tailored for specific things (racing, freestyle) you should go get fitted first.

Might I also suggest looking at some of the gear guides to get a rough idea of something that might be up your alley, then you can at least have a few models that you would like to try to see if they fit or not.

But what everybody has said above is key:

best to go talk to a bootfitter first and get set-up with boots.

You'll need to allow yourself at least a full day to try on boots (more if you feel the need to hit up a couple different shops should the first one you go to not have what fits...I had to hit up 5 shops before finding a boot that worked).

And then yeah, once you've got the boots, then demo for a bit. Try different lengths of the same ski as twin tips, especially, ski short.

It's a process, my man. Heck, I bought a fleet (5 pairs) of skis 2 seasons ago and it took me a season to figure out each ski and in some cases decide that I didn't like some of the models that much afterall. Then I demoed some more, tweaked my quiver and whatnot. But the boots were the key thing. Once I got a solid pair of boots, then it was all gravy.
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