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$87 lift ticket?

post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
Are you sh!tting me?

Aspen is getting $87 for a lift ticket this year?

How soon before it's $100
post #2 of 29
Its obviously a status thing with them to have the highest price. Therefore, I don't really understand why they aren't charging $100. Once you get that high, it's all ridiculous. Who's gonna say, "$100? No way! If it was only $87, I'd definitely be out there."?
post #3 of 29
I really think skiers should be getting more conscious of the impact of lift tickets on trip costs. I think everyone spends time shopping heavily for the hotel and airfares, but neglects to do a "value for money" when it comes to lift tickets. I noticed this huge discrepancy when I was trying to encourage someone to come here rather than go almost anywhere else.
post #4 of 29
Too bad the town of Aspen is at the bottom of Ajax, 'cause Ajax is a pretty wild hill.
post #5 of 29
No more ridiculous then Disney raising their prices to $71/day. As long as people pay it, they will keep going up.
post #6 of 29
$71 for a day a day at Disney has more value, IMO.

The older I get, there is less value in my lift ticket.
post #7 of 29
Of course, the most expensive lift ticket is the season pass that doesn't get used. My husband got injured TWICE on opening day and each time postponed going to ski area management until the end of the season to get some money back. They wouldn't at that point (two different areas). The result was he has had two ski days that cost him $300 and $450. (Excluding the health care deductible, of course.)

I at least had gotten my money's worth last season before the accident, having brought my "average" day ticket down to under $7 (adjustments made for days I would have skied free anyway since I was gatekeeping).
post #8 of 29
Never pay retail!
post #9 of 29
Treble Cone raised thier adult ticket to $99 NZD, they have two lifts - one quad and one 6 seater. Not many lifts for your dollar compared to US or Canada. I really thought they had priced themselves out of the market. An NZ dollar buys about the same as a US dollar. This translates to very expensive for locals and visitors - but the crowds still come. Why ? Because they have the most vertical , most acreage, most varied terrain, best food and coffee and best view of all the south island commercial areas. So they must think the $10 a day more it costs to ski there than any other commercial area is worth it.

They also bought in graduated pricing for seasons passes. An unlimited days seasons pass costs $2000 , but you could also buy a 50 day, or 20 day or 10 day or 5 day season pass. Once you used up your days, you can buy more at a discounted price. For example a 5 day pass works out at $70 day and each extra day is $70. Once you use up your 50 day pass it is $30 a day. Not so flexible in that you'd think twice about doing half days. They sold more seasons passes this year than ever before.

Lots of people have said to me they won't go back, it is too expensive, but the crowds still keep coming. Including me....
post #10 of 29
Take a look a look The Arlberg's 2007/8 Ski pass prices in Euros

1 day is approx $56.60
Season Pass $907

87 Lifts
260Km groomers
350km (approx) lift served off piste.

St. Anton
St. Christoph
Stuben
Lech
Oberlech
Zürs
Klösterle-Sonnenkopf


http://www.stantonamarlberg.com/wint...nter0708_D.pdf


I like Aspen (alot) but if it wasnt for the strong Euro v Dollar they would of lost another international customer this year.
post #11 of 29
Lift ticket price has nothing to do with skiable km. Some of the lessor known resorts out west with fantastic snow and no crowd cost half as much as the well-known EAST coast resort that has little snow and crowded runs.

It's where the skiers are and where they're traditionally going to. Supply and demand. I suspect that's what's happening with the NZ ski resorts. Lack of competition.

Most US resorts are small but many US skiers also only do short trips. (we don't hav e6 week vacations!) So the size doesn't really matter. We can't cover the area in one day anyway. Also most western resorts have open bowls you can't measure with km!
post #12 of 29
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Originally Posted by Sugaree View Post
$71 for a day a day at Disney has more value, IMO.

The older I get, there is less value in my lift ticket.
Disney makes Aspen look like a steal! Unless you enjoy waiting in long lines to ride mundane rides. Aspen is much more bang for the buck! and the number of different rides are endless!
post #13 of 29
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Originally Posted by bud heishman View Post
Disney makes Aspen look like a steal! Unless you enjoy waiting in long lines to ride mundane rides. Aspen is much more bang for the buck! and the number of different rides are endless!

We have one thing in common......we both love skiing.

I happen to love Disney, too.

Plus, I can go all day and night at Disney. Aspen, I could go for about 5 hours.
post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by julie from nz View Post
Treble Cone raised thier adult ticket to $99 NZD..... An NZ dollar buys about the same as a US dollar. This translates to very expensive for locals and visitors ....
I disagree with this.

1 US Dollar = 1.42 Kiwi dollars

a $70 ticket is pretty typical for US one day rate
post #15 of 29
If you bring your US dollar over, then yes it will cost you about $70. But for us kiwis who earn an NZD dollar, it buys what your US dollar would buy at home, sometimes less - which is great for you when you come visit, but not so good for us visiting you. A latte here costs $3.50 to $4 NZD. Cause I don't go to McDonalds I can't tell you what the Big Mac costs, which is what people commonly use to compare between countries.
post #16 of 29
I just spent $87 a ticket to see Elton John in Bozeman.
post #17 of 29
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Originally Posted by Rio View Post
I just spent $87 a ticket to see Elton John in Bozeman.
That's just silly on more than one level...
post #18 of 29
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Originally Posted by Rio View Post
I just spent $87 a ticket to see Elton John in Bozeman.
I raced over to find the concert on line and decided I didn't have even the low-priced $67. DARN.

Saw him when I was in college at the Nassau Coliseum. But, I need so much new stuff for skiing that I have to pass on Elton.
post #19 of 29
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Originally Posted by julie from nz View Post
I can't tell you what the Big Mac costs, which is what people commonly use to compare between countries.
Who the heck still eats the Big Mac anyhow? It's so 'sixties."

I think skiers at least should use the always-fresh-and-tasty-after-a-day-on-the-slopes Hostess Snowballs as their international price benchmark anyhow. :

Those tasty cakes just don't freeze up on you in an emergency and will stay freshly wrapped for months out in the backcountry too.
post #20 of 29
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Originally Posted by Lars View Post
Are you sh!tting me?

Aspen is getting $87 for a lift ticket this year?

How soon before it's $100
umm dont go there. I know it realyl wont matter to aspen cause tons of people will just pay it, but I wouldnt go to a hill that was charging that much.

NOw whats the PSIA discount at aspen like?
post #21 of 29
It really doesn't take that much effort to find tickets for less than retail. Get creative.

Me, I get a 100% discount to Aspen mountains. If I had a S.O. he'd get a 50% discount. (He'd also have to know how to snowboard at least at a Level 7 ability or get there pretty quick.)

I've heard Aspen has a PSIA discount. Aspen people?????
post #22 of 29
Big Moun....er.....Whitefish Mountain Resort tickets will be $56 daily this coming season. I think that's up $4. All kinds of "Frequent Skier" things, which can bring your skiing down to $39/day plus the $50 card fee. Haven't seen the tourist prices yet. Our season pass is $499, up $20 from last year. Unless you wait until October to buy it, then it jumps first to $749 and on 11/15 it's up to $969. If you know you're coming and will get in 9 days of skiing, buy a season pass before October 1.
post #23 of 29

$

Supply and Demand

There are approximately 1.38 million people in Idaho. Most of them in Southern Idaho, most of the skiers at Sun Valley. No. Idaho has 5 ski areas. I have a season pass to Lookout Mt. and Silver Mt., cost me a whooping $249.00 for 2 areas.

Year I know its not Aspen/Vail/Heavenly etc. but can you ski with no liftlines 7 days a week? I can. And the same beer at the end of the day is $1.75 at Lookout and $2.50 at silver. There is a 2 1/2 mile run at Silver that I have skied literally dozens of times and never passed another sole on the hill. PRICELESS! well almost.
post #24 of 29
I noticed that Schweitzer, the most comparable resort in Idaho to TBM is pricier for season passes, tho. Any idea why? I've kind of assumed it was the proximity to Spokane?
post #25 of 29
I always wondered about prices for attraction tickets, like Aspen and dizzy whirled. people coming to those attractions are spending much more on transportation, lodging and meals than on tickets for the attractions. if the attraction controls the local environment, then it would make sense to lowball the attraction price and make it up on other purchases. If the attraction does not own the local hotels and restaurants, then it makes a lot more sense for the attraction to raise its prices, and the result will be lower prices for lodging and meals off the attraction premises. The end cost to the customer will not change much, but there will be a wealth transfer from local hangers on to the attraction. Further, travel costs tothe destination may decrease, if everything else stays the same.
post #26 of 29
At least here, Foley is buying up restaurants so he gets both the ski lift money and the eating money. I guess hotels will be next. I am reading "Downhill Slide" which talks about some of the big resorts where basically the ski area has its hand in all the tills of the surrounding businesses.
post #27 of 29
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post
At least here, Foley is buying up restaurants so he gets both the ski lift money and the eating money. I guess hotels will be next. I am reading "Downhill Slide" which talks about some of the big resorts where basically the ski area has its hand in all the tills of the surrounding businesses.
He still doesn't get the airfare. I would guess that there is a lot more money to be made by a market discriminator who keeps the lift tickets modestly priced and charges for amenities such as meals and lodging.
post #28 of 29
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Originally Posted by FOG View Post
He still doesn't get the airfare. I would guess that there is a lot more money to be made by a market discriminator who keeps the lift tickets modestly priced and charges for amenities such as meals and lodging.
Well, notice that our lift ticket prices are modest for a 3000 acre ski area: $56, not $87. Also, reading the book, some areas ARE in cahoots with the airlines, basically subsidizing the airfare to get people to the ski area by guaranteeing $x or x number of seats to the airline. We've suddenly got direct service from Denver to here and RUMOR has it that it's due to Foley somehow.
post #29 of 29

Lift Prices

SibHusky, Schweitzer is spending a lot more $ on ski area than any other area in PNW(Inland). They are expanding the RE area and do have the biggest ski area in these parts. I'm 2 hours away so don't go there very often and everytime I do its foggy anyway. Supply and demand, they are the only real destination resort in the Spokane/Couer d alene area. The area is also growing pretty fast. The Developer/California connectionis there.
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