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New lift in Empire at Deer Valley

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Anyone know what part of Empire the lift will be in?
post #2 of 16
Isn't it near that "Silver Strike" development?
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I was biking in the area and couldn't see the base of the lift but it looked like it started around the base of Empire area (possibly around Silver Strike) and ascended a mountain to the right and short of the top of Empire. I would guess in the neighborhood of 800-1000 feet of vertical with a half dozen or so runs and some interesting looking gladed areas. It does not appear to be just real estate related.
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That sounds like a fun place to spend a morning, while the luxoslugs are safe in bed....
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New high-speed detachable quad chairlift... Lady Morgan Express... in Empire Canyon. This new lift will access over 200 new skiable acres, 65 acres of gladed skiing and nine new ski runs.
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Does it get closer to PCMR? Isn't it about time these two did a common pass or ticket? A combined DV - PCMR would be the best ticket inthe USA because of the differences between the two areas. The high $$ crowd at DV would buy it just for the convenience. I'd buy it just to ski down from McConkeys to DV for lunch.
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Originally Posted by steveturner View Post
Does it get closer to PCMR? Isn't it about time these two did a common pass or ticket? A combined DV - PCMR would be the best ticket inthe USA because of the differences between the two areas. The high $$ crowd at DV would buy it just for the convenience. I'd buy it just to ski down from McConkeys to DV for lunch.
Not that I advocate illegal activity, but it's a hell of a lot easier to go from DV to PCMR (hint: Supreme is about one orange rope and 100 feet away (but down hill) from McConkeys).

From the sounds of it, the new lift is going to service Lady Morgan bowl, and may replace the Ore Cart lift. There is some treed area below Lady Morgan that could supply some nice skiing.
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My anger of uncheck expansion by developers around Deer Valley can not be expressed. FYI this isnt DV building there chairlifts/trails its developers who is now selling slope side homes. they have destroyed miles of single track including the part of the awesome mid mountain trail. No attempt is being made to rebuild it. the clear cutting and machine grooming is such a bad way to make ski slopes and cause tons of dirt erosion.

The town of Park City needs to have a law limiting the maximum elevation of new home built cause these houses simply dont belong.

DV/PCMR would never be the best ticket in the USA unless your a gaper.

So glad LCC will never be built up like this, and to anyone who skis DV over LCC cause they can ski out of there house on to thier private lift(on what was once public land), we didnt want you here anyways.

Angry post I know, but the amount of stuff that is getting affected so someone can have ski in and ski out housing is absurd. The houses are only going to be occupied a couple weeks out of the year at best.
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
My anger of uncheck expansion by developers around Deer Valley can not be expressed. FYI this isnt DV building there chairlifts/trails its developers who is now selling slope side homes. they have destroyed miles of single track including the part of the awesome mid mountain trail. No attempt is being made to rebuild it. the clear cutting and machine grooming is such a bad way to make ski slopes and cause tons of dirt erosion.
BTW keep in mind that Talisker Deer Valley, the company that is running this entire shebbang is also the first in line to take over down the road at The Canyons and also owns almost all the land that Park City Mountain Resort is on (99 year lease there). I guess it's the "American Way" but there isn't a thing the local government can really do to do much more than limit the damage - guess that's what happens when the state legislature is run by realtors and developers!
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well I think you can, but ... you have to be proactive with conservation and put laws into place that limit growth in some areas. These issues exist everywhere though - developers run planning, conflicts of interest etc. If erosion and water problems happen they should be pointed out and addressed.

There was a story about making a Disney world type ski area out of the whole place out there in BCC/LCC and PC I read a while back. It would be amazing but like someone pointed out with success and development come other problems. The best of all worlds IMO is to preserve the character but make it useable and enjoyable for everyone (provide access). There should be a place for completely wild, then others for DV type super luxury groomed etc.
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Just picked up the Ski Utah vacation planner at the REI sale today and it appears from the map in it that the lift does not start at the lodge but downhill and to the right (when looking up) of the Empire Lodge. Probably has a little more vertical than I guessed--over 1000 I would guess.
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Here is a picture of Lady Morgan from my bike ride last week. Empire is the left, outside the picture. Somewhat dissapointing in that the terrain is good, but the exposure is East. Gonna get mushy in a hurry after a dump:

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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
My anger of uncheck expansion by developers around Deer Valley can not be expressed. FYI this isnt DV building there chairlifts/trails its developers who is now selling slope side homes. they have destroyed miles of single track including the part of the awesome mid mountain trail. No attempt is being made to rebuild it. the clear cutting and machine grooming is such a bad way to make ski slopes and cause tons of dirt erosion.

The town of Park City needs to have a law limiting the maximum elevation of new home built cause these houses simply dont belong.

DV/PCMR would never be the best ticket in the USA unless your a gaper.

So glad LCC will never be built up like this, and to anyone who skis DV over LCC cause they can ski out of there house on to thier private lift(on what was once public land), we didnt want you here anyways.

Angry post I know, but the amount of stuff that is getting affected so someone can have ski in and ski out housing is absurd. The houses are only going to be occupied a couple weeks out of the year at best.
Exactly why my $$ go to PCMR. Jon Cumming has gone on record to state that PCMR does NOT intend to build any homes/hotels on their slopes.

Note: Treasure Hill and the Spiro developments are not within his control and will be the last areas developed along the flanks of PCMR.

Vote with your wallet and your conscience and you can make a difference.

TeleProphet
post #14 of 16
I'm with Bushwhacker on this one. The Park City I lived in 15 years ago was a different place (as was everywhere else, I guess). The problem with DV is the developement has gotten so out of hand that it's not really a ski area anymore but a city with runs for streets. They put huge houses at all levels of the mountain and not just at the base. The new lift extends below the empire Lodge to service a huge new hotel- I forget if it's the Ritz Carleton, the Four Seasons or what and I'm not about to look it up.

Two of the best ski days I've ever had was yo-yoing Lady Morgan bowl with 30 inches of pow two seasons ago and Rocking the Sultan chair with Joe Pack, two other guys and nobody else on a stormy pow day the year before.

The good news, if any, is that Vail is in contention for getting the Canyons I hear that they know how to run a skiing op.

For what it's worth, DV is still good for kids...IMO.
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I tell you, everytime I go up Empire pass it's just heart breaking. All DV does is build, build, build. What used to be one of the nicest areas above PC is now just condo/lodge/trophy home mania. I thought the countrywide credit slowdown would at least keep things in check for a few years, but the developers go on and on. I just don't know how they can sleep at night seing what they do to pristine land on a daily basis.

Just heartbreaking......
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