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Looking for all-mountain skis for '08 season, plz help

post #1 of 12
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I'm looking to upgrade my quiver with a truly all mountain skis this year. I'm 25yr 5'10" 165lbs, and I've been skiing 165 '05 Dynastar Trouble Makers for the last two seasons. I really like the skis they are so fast and responsive, except a few gripes - too thin for powder, a bit on the heavy side for terrain park and they do wobble at high speeds. I'll be keeping them as my beater skis.

I'm an almost expert skier, ski everything at keystone/breck/Vail but on the more challenging double blacks I don't look very good doing it I usually spend the first half of the day in the bowls (all day if it's nice powder), then half pipe and some terrain park, and then 'relax' and go really fast on groomers.

I almost bought Rossi Scartch BC last year, but demoed them first at 178cm (they didn't have the 171cm available) and found out it was too much of a ski for me. Although, I'm still hoping that the 171 might be exactly what I'm looking for. I also demoed Volkl Karmas and I thought they were very similar to my Trouble Makers in that they are too thin for powder.
Anyway, didn't mean to write an essay, just want to give as much info as I can. I'm basically looking for a truly all around skis that I can use for everything, without having to switch half way through the day.
post #2 of 12
*Metron?






*Sorry, inside joke.
post #3 of 12
PE?
888?
Snoop?

You are light enough that you don't need to get much over 90mm in the waist if there is enough length, like a 180+/- ski.
post #4 of 12
Check out the Dynastar Legends 8000 and this thread (among others). They'll plow through anything and are very versatile. Since I got them late in the season, I didn't get any real powder turns to comment. The only time I wished they were the 172's versus the 178's, was in the bumps. Loved the stability at speed and control. Also, see the 8800's, possibly.
post #5 of 12
Another 8000 vote. has been my #1 ski for two seasons (but bought the 8800's in May for big dump days).

172 if you like ultra-snap, 178 for gs turns. I'm 5;9, 160 and have the 165's for snake turns down the fall line. I've been in 18 inches of fresh, and they've been great. Enjoy.
post #6 of 12
Ummm, the guy likes to play in the park. I read that as needing a twin.

Public Enemies seem like the no-brainer option. Maybe the new Volkl Bridge? Or whatever Salomon calls the Pocket Rocket these days? (Caveat: I've skied none of the three.)

You might want to pop over to the forums on SierraJim's site, sierrasnowboard.com -- their staff answers questions, and they seem to have good park knowledge as well as all mountain.
post #7 of 12
Something wider than a TM... You liked the TM but just want a wider ski right? There are about 1000 and a half fat twins out there right now most for supa cheap. What about big trubs? They have been on SAC a number of times so should be available for cheap. What about a Mantra or a Goat? Maybe harder to find and more $$.

A bunch from TGR just got hooked up with a group buy from 9thward. A few of them just bought it for no reason and are looking to flip. The 180 First Bloods might be what you want. I just ordered a scott P4 for a really good deal, might still be some available from colorado freeride. Look on TGR's gear swap for the detials.
post #8 of 12
PE's, no question
post #9 of 12
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Originally Posted by alpinedad View Post
Ummm, the guy likes to play in the park. I read that as needing a twin.

Public Enemies seem like the no-brainer option. Maybe the new Volkl Bridge? Or whatever Salomon calls the Pocket Rocket these days? (Caveat: I've skied none of the three.)

You might want to pop over to the forums on SierraJim's site, sierrasnowboard.com -- their staff answers questions, and they seem to have good park knowledge as well as all mountain.
Ummmm, the title of the thread is "Looking for all-mountain skis for '08 season"

I'll stick with the Legend 8k suggestion.
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your replies, I spent some time reading up about Legends, PEs, Gotama, Mantra & BTs.
I'm not sure about Legend 8k's 78mm waist, I was looking for something slightly wider than that, and I do a bit of switching (hoping to improve this year), so I'm thinking twin tips. Is it a waste going twin tips if I'm only doing like 5% switching?
I didn't like the BT reviews as people are saying they're not as 'all mountain' as they would like. I think Mantras are too fat for all mountain & Gotamas aren't that good on groomers.
So I'm thinking PEs - from reading all the reviews, they look like they're built for me. Question about them, how do they handle at high speeds? I like going to Beaver Creek a few times a year and just ski down those groomers - birds of prey I think is the long ass groomed run.
Also, are they fairly light as compared to the rest of all mountain twin tips? I'm thinking I'll go with the solomon Z12 bindings.
post #11 of 12
Just use your HEAD....I know bad joke.
post #12 of 12
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Originally Posted by diavol View Post
Is it a waste going twin tips if I'm only doing like 5% switching?
I would say it's probably a waste to choose a ski that would otherwise not be as good for you just because it has twins, but all else being equal, you might as well.

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Originally Posted by diavol View Post
I'm thinking I'll go with the solomon Z12 bindings.
I'd advise against that. The first-year reports were not strong. You'll probably be better off with older 912s (or even 810s), or the Look PX/Rossi Axial2 series.
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