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post #61 of 73
lemme see here , 1985 to present..
Can't say, I slept  rhough the 80s and 90s

Past 15 years, 1995 to present: (from an East perspective)
K2 Four
Head SuparShapes (assorted)
Nordica Dobermans (assorted)
K2 PE
Volkl Gotama
post #62 of 73
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Originally Posted by Whiteroom View Post

...One more thing:

I really don't see the new generation of rockered/ reverse Sidecut/ Reverse Camber skis as 'important' in the sense that they will effect the mass market. they're neat but they're very very specialized and won't really 'change' ski design for the masses the way other technology has. To me they are a 'solution' to a problem that doesn't really exist, higher performance? No. Easier? Maybe. A different way to slide? Sure, just like snowblades. Come on, does anyone really want powder skiing to be MORE accessible to the masses?

hahah what do you say to this now? 
post #63 of 73
The skis that jumped out at me in the last 25 years?  These are only from those I skied on.

Elan Comprex S - 1989.  We were looking for ski rebound at the time and these were like spings on my feet.

Salomon Axendo 9 - 1995 - the first shaped ski I tried that I liked.  After skiing on for an afternoon the phrase was "I have to beg, borrow or steal a pair"

K2 Four.  Won Junior Nationals I believe?  This was the ski I bought after trying the Axendo 9

Head iSL Chip.  This ski had a lot of life.  probably the best of the chip line Head has ever produced

Head SuperShape Magnum.  A lot of fun especially as it gets steeper. 

...

And my #1 favourite ... Shaped Skis.  put a whole lot of fun back into skiing in the 90s

And my #1 least favourite ... shaped skis - the average person can no longer tell the difference between a good skier and an intermediate on a groomed slope - skiing much easier now

...

finally ...  the variety of ski types.

You have to love that we have racers, free stylers, off piste skiers, etc... each with a different type of ski that is specifically made for their interests. 

Mike
post #64 of 73
Though I have limited exposure to skis, I would like to add the IC160 from head in 2003.
I learned to ski on them in 2005 and finding excellent reviews from all over the world
was as easy as simply punching the name in Google.

To this day, I am amaised at the positive reviews from all over. They really did ths one right!
post #65 of 73
Atomic Arc RS: truly riding around on a fast race ski for the *recreational skier. Again, not first or only, but best of a certain kind of skiing attitude and experience. and respected for quality.

We skied it in powder instead of a slalom ski.

It was popular when Steve M. and his pals were starting a long ski stoke.

(It was contemp with the Rossi 3 M (is that correct?) which was a damp and sure ski, softened GS type flex, more sidecut than the Atomic RS. very popular ski.) Those two skis ruled for a while in Tahoe.




Volkl 31 and 41 (and the 3,4, 30, 40) were the everyday do everything, mid fat ski out west. The ski put it all together: durable and rewarding to ski. It wasn't the first or the only, but it synthesized all the best features: titanol sheets, sandwich sidewall construction, wood cores, stiff flex, choice of sidecut and width. 




Volkl Explosiv: heck, the heli ski companies had them produced with their logo topsheets.

They had this ski on the wall before most people in San Francisco knew what the heck it was or what length people would ski it in.  It was the model with the blue, yellow, grey cloud and sky graphics top sheet, same as the snow ranger of the same season. Typical Volkl way of making skis at the time: two layers titanol, wood core, sidewall constr.

Pretty wide when it came out, 95 waist. Unusual sidecut: looking down the ski base with the tip in your hand, the base and edges up, the sidecut is more of a long obtuse angle than a contiuous curve, like two slightly curved lines intersect as an angle under the heel of your boot. I speculated that it was designed for the check turn, short swing, sliding and platforming turns employed for the most difficult skiing going down at the time. Too stiff for a pure powder ski, but the tradeoff was that you could ski it in any condition or situation from Cham to Valdez.

The Wizard was even more popular, and somehow was dropped in favor of returning the earlier design in the Budha model.


 

The Spatula and McKonkey's influence on ski design.


Now the entire class of designated powder ski that has a place in any quiver, the 120 + ish soft flexing ski, be it rockered-rev camber or reverse sidecut in addition is not the thing, its the perfect for powder ski concept. (however you want to define it) 
Volkl Sumo, Sanook, Chopstick, and Kuro come to mind, in the same class with Dynastar Legend Pro XXL, Rossi S7, Praxis Powder, Atomic Bentchetler, Fisher Watea 114, and others.

*recreational skier, defined by a local racing director, is a person who makes their turns where they want to.
Edited by davluri - 1/9/10 at 7:38am
post #66 of 73

 

K2 VO Slalom( Friggin' 2x4 tank)

Rossi 4SK(green) ,3GK(White), and 4MK

Volkl P9 SL

Volant Spatula

Elan SCX

Volkl Gotama (Rockered.... Buddah)

 

Thats 6 But what ever....

 

 

Best Ski I have ever owned:  In the mid 90's I managed to get a hold of a pair of Custom Race Stock 205 Volkl P20 Super G's. They were slightly used, not sure who's they were (Bought from a friend that had a brother on the US world cup team, and said they were a training ski for somebody on the women's team). I know, I know girls ski, I skied it as an everyday ski. A little softer, massive sidecut(For its time), and didn't ski like anything I'd ever skied on. Low profile tip, hauled ass, and still turned very quick for what it was.  Almost felt like a shaped ski before the whole shape ski craze. Definitely custom spec........ Awesome ski !!

 

 

 

post #67 of 73

I've only been skiing 25 years or so.  This should be fun.

 

In no particular order...based on importance or impact...not necessarily how well they skied

 

Salomon TenEighty (Got the Twin Tip Ball Rolling)

Volant Spatula/K2 Pontoon (Got the Rocker/Reverse Camber/Reverse Sidecut Ball Rolling)

Elan SCX/Kneissl Ergo (tie) (Got the Sidecut Ball Rolling)

Volant Chubb (Got the fat ball rolling)

Rossignol S7 (Got the Dual Sidecut/Camber Ball rolling)

 

Now instead for my personal favs of all time...Again in no particular order

 

Straight Skis

 

Olin DTSL

Rossignol 7SK

K2 MSL

Hart F17t

Dynastar Vertical Assault

 

Modern Skis

 

Rossignol Pow'Air

Armada AR5

Kneissl Fly Star

Rossignol Super 7 (only the 195)

Nordica Radict (never skied it, but it makes the list for graphics alone)

post #68 of 73

Old thread resurrected from the dead.  Keep going...  

 

BTW, I am totally surprised that Salomon XScream Series is not on the list.  A hugely popular ski in its day, the first truly high-performance mid-fat that got widespread acceptance (back in the day it felt like every decent skier on the mountain was on those skis).  I know a lot of skiers who made a jump to mid-fats and shaped skis because of the Screams.  Definitely my candidate for the top five spot.

post #69 of 73

I have a pair of 207 P20 RS supers--skied them as my one ski.  No longer want to ski 45mph, no longer want to put that much into my ski.  Now looking for something new.

 

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Originally Posted by ski71 View Post

 

K2 VO Slalom( Friggin' 2x4 tank)

Rossi 4SK(green) ,3GK(White), and 4MK

Volkl P9 SL

Volant Spatula

Elan SCX

Volkl Gotama (Rockered.... Buddah)

 

Thats 6 But what ever....

 

 

Best Ski I have ever owned:  In the mid 90's I managed to get a hold of a pair of Custom Race Stock 205 Volkl P20 Super G's. They were slightly used, not sure who's they were (Bought from a friend that had a brother on the US world cup team, and said they were a training ski for somebody on the women's team). I know, I know girls ski, I skied it as an everyday ski. A little softer, massive sidecut(For its time), and didn't ski like anything I'd ever skied on. Low profile tip, hauled ass, and still turned very quick for what it was.  Almost felt like a shaped ski before the whole shape ski craze. Definitely custom spec........ Awesome ski !!

 

 

 

post #70 of 73
OOOH. Red P20s. OOOH. Drool.
post #71 of 73
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Originally Posted by alexzn View Post

Old thread resurrected from the dead.  Keep going...  

 

BTW, I am totally surprised that Salomon XScream Series is not on the list.  A hugely popular ski in its day, the first truly high-performance mid-fat that got widespread acceptance (back in the day it felt like every decent skier on the mountain was on those skis).  I know a lot of skiers who made a jump to mid-fats and shaped skis because of the Screams.  Definitely my candidate for the top five spot.


I never ever in all my days liked those.  My Dad had a pair in the 196cm range.  Didn't like how they skied, and furthermore, they are possibly the ugliest ski ever.

post #72 of 73

I ski a Volkl Tiger shark 10 in a 175, does almost everything, and what it doesn't do... I have my Gotamas in a 186.

 

If you like the Volkl brand, they still have the same feel as they alway did. Don't think Volkl will ever change the feel of their ski. Point being if you like your P20's buy another Volkl. Try a bunch !!!

post #73 of 73

My list since I never posted in this long thread.

 

1. snowboards - first mass produced snow sliding devices that had sidecut and float.

 

2. atomic Metron series - in hindsight a bad idea, but it started the trend towards giant carvers

 

3. Salomon Pocket rocket - as others have said first fat ski for the masses, the shape and design is still relevant to this day and the tip is quite long.

 

4. The second coming of Kastle - they are producing serious skis by getting back to the roots of ski making and taking some thought in camber and flex profiles. Everything they produce is an oxymoron

 

5.Rossi S3 - this is the first rockered ski for the masses. It may not be the best or even the first 'little" rockered ski but its the ski that sold the idea to everyone.

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